more pissed than i have ever been... - Page 2

Some useful posts above for me, having just started to install a gyro. I will look into buying some noodles here in Europe. :)

 

psht. Go to a local shop and ask them if they have a trash pile. My local shop leaves a couple bikes out by the dumpster that are free pickings.

man you guys really make me wanna get a gyro going again. the things look so clean with those noodles.

I think them noodles look horrible and make the bike look tacky and cheap, but that's my opinion.

But brakes weren't designed to look good or bad

Remember, seeing I saw a few and see it alot in the Bike Check section...be SURE the gyro is resting flat on the bottom guides. When you turn the bars it should STAY flat and not go off center at all (crooked). If it goes crooked...redo you bottom cables till it stays flat. Gyro wobble is the #1 thing that turns people away from them. It also robs some stopping power.

 

TIP: If you can not adjust your gyro with ONLY the brakes or bottom cables...redo it. Correct setup, the top cables and lever adjustments shouldn't EVER be needed.

 

 

Best gyro setup I have ever rode (wasnt my bike sadly) is this.

 

 

TOP

1 reg Ody gyro upper

 

2 Ody lin cables custom cut and used on a Pervert

 

MIDDLE

SNAFU Mobeus

 

BOTTOM

2 Odyssey Race Linear cables routed to each side of a set of Fly's

 Clear Ody pads with a chrome rim

 

Spun perfect, and was ultra smooth...smoother than most straight cables.

 

 

A gyro that's set up even moderately correct will feel smoother than straight cables - less flex

but yes, flop is a bitch. Make sure you're clear of it.

PS - Your gyro should not rest on the bottom tabs/plate (whatever you use) but should have about a millimeter of clearance. Enough that you can slip a credit card or business card or thin coin in there. The position of the gyro should depend solely on the springs in the lever/brake arms - and not use the frame as a boundary condition at all.

dammit. you guys really make me wanna run a gyro. any suggestions on upper and lower cables? well and the detangler? the only ones i have are the crappy stock ones you get with completes.

those crappy stock upper cables are fine. Unless you mean detanglers, in which case HAH! Those are fine too!

The only thing that it's not good to go crappy stock on is the lever, and the lower setup. Dual lowers. Definitely.

I run a Snafu Mobeus because my buddy was ditching his gyro, I traded a seat for it or something. I also have dual uppers because I wanted to try them out. They're definitely nice but I don't know that it would be worth it to replace them if they ever broke (I have a second set that I randomly found the other day, so those would have to break too ).

But for a year or two I ran the detangler straight off of a walmart bike. They really aren't bad, and it's not worth it to drop in 30 bucks for a detangler. The Mobeus is 26 on Dans. If you have a discount, maybe, but I don't know that I would pay that much, depending on what my disposable income was.

well i'm thinking maybe i get one of those oddy levers built specially for gyros. thats proabaly a $70 setup though total with the cables, lever and a cheaper detangler (the oddy one is like $50 or $80 or something like that). i'd probably get a mobeus. alot of people have those and they seem to hold up well.

I love it. I mean, it's not worth the 26 new, but used it would be sweet. I wouldn't get the Ody detangler. I like Ody, and it's a nice product, it's just...not worth it.

Set up an acceptable setup for now and then build up from there. You have brakes already, yes?

Get dual lower cables - SST makes a "kit" for dual lowers that comes with a cheap london mod knockoff, I've been using it for a couple of years. Haven't noticed the difference. Also Ody Evo's come with a london mod too I believe.

Get the noodles if you want, ****ing love mine. Would never run a gyro without them. Soooo smooth.

As far as upper cables go, I love the tech 77 and dual uppers. I haven't run splitters uppers in forever, but I've seen Hoffman, Nyquist, etc running them within the past couple of years. All you need is a cable knarp to be able to cut them down at the lever end. They really are easy to dial in.

But seriously, Tech 77 is my favorite brake lever. I snapped one on a wallride bail (not exactly sure how that worked, but it sheared), and I got a new one the next couple of days. If you plan to run your lever on the bend of the bars, the Dirt Harry is pretty nice too. Used to run that for a couple years.

i'm gettting a tektro lever (i snapped the one i had on a cold day) but its not like a stock one. instead of the lever hinging inside the bracket it is on the outside like the dirt harry. i think that will be a bit stronger. i like the feel of tektro levers. do you have links to the products you described? i'm getting really giddy about doing this now. i love fiddling with new setups.

Tektro Tech 77 lever, just google it.

Ummm the SST kit (basically the same thing):
http://www.albes.com/snafuastroglidedualbottomgyrocablekit.aspx

Upper cables:
Double: http://www.albes.com/snafuastroglidetopgyrocable.aspx
Note: Won't work with some levers. Check into that before you do that if you run these

Splitter:
http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS-GYROS/511003/Odyssey_Detangler_Cables.html
Note: They do some in different sizes. I think Medium is the best fit? Check into it though, I forgot they came in different sizes until I found them on dan's

And the knarp to cut down the upper splitter cables:
http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS-GYROS/512027/Odyssey_Knarps.html
Come in pairs, only need one - It's to cut the knarp off at the lever and cut down the cable. It is do-able. Annoying, but do-able.

Ummm V-Brake noodles if you can't find any:
http://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Cable-Guide-Noodle-V-Brake/dp/tags-on-product/B000AO7IHO
Anything works really, I just searched "V-Brake noodle" and those came up. They should come in a small range of angles, actually, so you might want to look into that but I just bent mine a bit.

By the way, check out sidewall distro too, they're pretty good for shit and they might have everything you need (except for the noodles).

yeah i'm out of noodles. i ran out after i set up a couple friends bikes with v-brakes. thanks for the links.
i think the tech 77 is dia-compe not tektro. dia-compe keeps coming up when i search for that lever.
i'll look into all the other links later but for now i'm trying to find a rebuild kit for my carbeurator.

awwww **** you right. It is dia. hahaha I haven't been the most observant as of late. Brands and specific products have kinda fallen off my list. Now it's all about how they work, load distributions, all that engineering shit that's general in every frame, part, etc that I'm learning and applying, so I can understand why frames are built the way they are, as are rims, etc etc.

Ima do a bike check soon though, just got new tires today! **** yeah. Ody Paths. Never ridden 'em before, tanwalls.
http://www.danscomp.com/products-PARTS-TIRESFREESTYLE/444098/Odyssey_Path_Tire.html

Got 'em at a local shop though. 2.1's front and rear, same as the walls, probably going to be a bit lighter! Packed my bike up into a guitar bag and suitcase (wheels went into suitcase, everything else got dismantled and folded up into the guitar bag). Bringing it up to school with me for the month, going to shred campus hard. ****yeah.

Okay Im tired.

double post

i'll have to check out your BC. that will help me to figure out the proper gyro setup a little more. haven't gotten around to installing it yet cuz i've been working.

I think I recently posted a video I found on youtube about setting up gyros, might not have been in this thread. They're fairly simple. I'll make sure to get some good shots of the setup when I take the shots for the check.

odyssey m2 lever, odyssey gyro, and sst lower y cable, no problems for me. non linear cable if you choose to be cool and run front brakes

i already run front brakes. nonlinear cable.

More power to ya if you can run the lower Ys and enjoy them. I ****ing hate those bitches haha