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Street Cowboy

07-28-2004, 07:09 PM

im canadian.... eh?
you dont think this effects us. the out come of the us ellection will have direct results on how long our minority gov will remain and what will come of it. canadian politics are tightly aligned with american, be it by our need for difference or current new world social trends ( ie *** marrige or deciminalization of kind nuggs). the divide that parts us from americans has become increasingly evedent with all the border crossings, soft wood lumber, bce, international trade disputes.. we may not have any say in what goes on there but it sure as all 'ell effects us! and if the international comunity expresses them selfs than maby the american people might listen.

redz

07-28-2004, 08:18 PM

redz wrote:
im canadian.... eh?

you dont think this effects us. the out come of the us ellection will have direct results on how long our minority gov will remain and what will come of it. canadian politics are tightly aligned with american, be it by our need for difference or current new world social trends ( ie g*y marrige or deciminalization of kind nuggs). the divide that parts us from americans has become increasingly evedent with all the border crossings, soft wood lumber, bce, international trade disputes.. we may not have any say in what goes on there but it sure as all 'ell effects us! and if the international comunity expresses them selfs than maby the american people might listen.

well its not like we have a choice anyways

sinnedram

07-29-2004, 12:10 AM

wouldnt it be interesting if it came down to florida again? ahh i would just laugh and scream at the same time. maybe he'll get another family member to work for a different state so it isnt quite as obvious. its amazing that most the people are low-middle class that vote for him and those are the people that are getting screwed.

PArider

07-29-2004, 12:14 AM

i honestly dont care lol

sandmriderbmx

07-29-2004, 02:02 AM

niether, there both assholes, kerry is a rich little white boy who never had a job in his life other then senator and his whole campain is based off how hes not bush.

but bush thinks its ok to flip off the un and do wat he wants

bruisedbob

07-29-2004, 09:34 PM

Well, seems like you've changed your opinion a little. There is hope in the world for our youth.

Sprocketgrinda2009

08-01-2004, 06:13 AM

You guys suck..i knew how to spell his name i was just testing you (lol)

Street Cowboy

08-01-2004, 07:50 AM

right ok

bruisedbob

08-03-2004, 07:37 AM

Yeah, you did.

yodaddysboss117

08-03-2004, 07:09 PM

Trimix

08-05-2004, 02:59 PM

Kerry or Bush? Are those my only two choices?

Ain't no sense in votin'...same song with a different name...might not be in the back of the bus, but it sure feels just the same....(Prince=Musicology)

I just sit back and watch all the silly people check their little boxes, and then deal with it. I don't vote, never have, and think the whole system/methods are a pile of BS.

Patriotic huh? I plan on taking off to some island in about 20 years anyway :)

t-man152

08-05-2004, 04:27 PM

his whole campain is based off how hes not bush.

hummm..... thats a very good basis for a campaign. :lol:

the thing that pisses me off about all this is how people vote. in the last election alot of people voted for bush because they found that he looked better in a suit.

also people don't bother to listen to the issues they have been told by their parents that they are democrats or republicans and they vote for whoever their party supports.

I rememeber looking at one of the debates where Bush and Gore were both agreeing on every issue. that is when I realized that they are just clones of each other and it doesnt really matter who wins.

the only reason some people hate Bush is because what he does is blown into the open due to the florida issue. people want to see him mess up.
Clinton did things that were alot worst than what bush is doing the only thing is Clinton was able to get away with it because everything was not found out by the mass media.

Street Cowboy

08-05-2004, 09:24 PM

if america is a democracy and as an american you desire this, shouldn't you vote. i mean with out what little say you get you might aswell be comunists or still better yet in a dictatorship. in countrys such as austrailia voting is mandatory with penaltys for people who do not vote. i doesnt matter how well the ecconomy is doing they get a voter turn out that is above 85%. such practice should go on in the states. It doesnt becouse uneducated people dont realise by not voting they are undermining the system. In turn leaving the country to be lead by people that figure the public doesnt care what they think (heck no one realy voted so yea hey no one will care what we do) is this the message you want to give your political leaders?? if you dont like who you have the choice to vote for , vote for the lesser of the two evils. with enuff people at least pretending to give a shit you will see change.. as a canadian i see lots of american polotics and in many cases the media i get it from is less biased. If the american population wasnt mislead half the time they might not be so stupid the other half. (no offence to the many intellegent americans) CNN' FOX and ABC all regularaly fudge facts and feed you candy coated versions of the truth and are not places one should look for hard news! i personaly think if you dont vote you should pay double your taxes. or have wage garnishing fines up to $5000.

CrimsonKing

08-06-2004, 08:29 AM

I say Kerry the lesser of two evil's.
Bush is as smart as a box of nails.....

Hann-es

08-11-2004, 12:59 PM

it's all about kerry ;)

Street Cowboy

09-23-2004, 04:06 AM

just diggin up an old sill relevent topic...

if yer an american and you like this world you live in, dont just listen to CNN. The majority of the world hates bush. Please vote,please don't vote for Bush!

infantry43RIDER

09-23-2004, 05:27 AM

Trimix :( , vote!

Anyways, i really don't like the policies of either Kerry or Bush. However, i think that Bush is a lot more corrupt, the entire family is...so i am going to vote for Kerry because he is the only one that can beat Bush. Even though i am doubting Kerry will win. The democratic national convention sucked my balls and the republican convention ruled so much ass. Even though everything they said (in my opinion) was bull. How could you not enjoy watching Arnold get the crowd to chant "4 MORE YEARS!!" "I WILL TERMINATE THE DEMOCRATS ARGH"...it was amusing, and i think that they really did a nice job giving the people what they wanted.

I am anti-pretty much everything Bush though. I dislike the war, i dislike high medication, i dislike the human rights struggle, i dislike racism...

John Kerry however, if you have been paying attention, is SOOOO damn close on most of the issues. He is like a ****ing twin of Bush. He is for the war...thats my big turn off. They both flip flop you just can't blame one of them for it. And im getting a little ****ing sick of the whole vietnam debate. I do give Kerry a little credit on actually staying in the army and not being awol by the use of his dad. I was going to say draft dodger, but if there was a draft right now, you ****ing better believe im dodging. Ha.

Damn. So its definitely a lose-lose 2004. The better of two evils, is kerry for me.

I appreciate you reading all that damn rambling.

reyesjr02

09-23-2004, 06:33 AM

Patriotic huh? I plan on taking off to some island in about 20 years anyway :)

heh, i said that in another post. i ****in hate politics. no matter what way the gov't is, they still manage to take advantage of the people. ill go halfers with you on that island trimix

Street Cowboy

09-24-2004, 11:48 PM

Patriotic huh? I plan on taking off to some island in about 20 years anyway :)

heh, i said that in another post. i f*ck hate politics. no matter what way the gov't is, they still manage to take advantage of the people. ill go halfers with you on that island trimix

you think maby half the reason you feel your poloticians are rippin you off is becouse maby your not supporting honnest poloticians. if more people had a vested interest in the polotics around them, the poloticians whould have a much harder time getting away with things that are not in the better interest of the public.

metephore .......hypothetical...... you have a garage full of stuff you dont need anymore about so you leave it open and unlocked and never go in or check up on it.. say a bunch of shit get stolen out of it. well you feel ripped off but the truth is it was your own fault for not paying attention. had you spent the time to make shure everything was how it is suposed to be to make your life feel correct than you might have kept the door locked.. but becouse of your negligance some one took yer livelyhood.

PGZX3

09-25-2004, 04:04 AM

wow, people sure do like to put on the blinders and say 'anywhere but here' alot in this country, I think if you guys took a closer look at Kerry you'd see he's more of a weak sauce pussy bitch than you can even imagine. :roll:
protecting my government (military) paycheck and voting republican here :lol:

PGZX3

09-25-2004, 04:21 AM

another thing, if you're not voting for Bush because he's so corrupted by the oil industry....take a look at Kerry's wife Teresa Heinz-Kerry and their business :roll:

Street Cowboy

09-25-2004, 04:22 AM

^^ no offecne to you but that verry mentallity is why many people through out the world hate americans. America already has an extreamly powerfull country so much so that it wasts resorses by bullying smaller countrys. america has been involved in more wars than any single other country in the last 50 years. just becouse kerry doesnt have the same desire for blood that bush has doesnt make him or your country any weaker. a sign that the american public cares for more intelectual means of inter-contenetal communication, might lead to a stronger nation. bush is hated by the majority of the world he should be charged for war crimes. people like bush are too evil to run countrys as strong and important as america.

beyond his alienating america from the rest of the world he has plunged you country in to the deepest debt it has seen since the great depression. why how could any self respecting republican suport some one who doesn't even stand for the republican dream?

Fatboy

09-28-2004, 03:09 AM

i like bush more.

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infantry43RIDER

09-28-2004, 03:24 AM

Give us a reason why buddy...

Street Cowboy

09-28-2004, 05:21 AM

i like bush more.

www.jibjab.com

uh huh and. do you have to like your presedent to trust him not to ruin your country?? kerry would be a better leader for the one reason . he isnt hated by the majority of the world.

personaly if i where an american i would feel safer voting for kerry becouse there is less of a chance people will want to destroy america. new blood mean new idealism. it might be a little much but i realy doubt the world trade buildings would of fallen had GORE been given the presedency he rightfully won. people hate bush so much they wish their worst sins on americans. that why its no longer safe for americans to go to many places in the world.

Street Cowboy

10-03-2004, 03:01 AM

kerry kicked georges ass in the debate.

Trimix

10-03-2004, 01:49 PM

I think the thing people forget is that these two guys are just guys. I don't look at them as any different than myself, just men in a suit. Some of you have to remember, as americans we don't necessarily DESIRE to have this system...it just exists. Hell I was born into it, I can NOT agree with it if I want to.

I have seen loads of botched elections, inaccurate counts, greased palms, etc. It is NOT about Democracy and Honesty, at all.....it is about POWER. For those that think you can VOTE in this country and YOUR VOTE make a difference, needs a round room with no door to try and get out of.

I also disagree about the analogy (street cowboy I think) about leaving your garage open. If I left it open and someone stole something I would not be pissed at anything BUT MYSELF.

Too many people point fingers, or sit around saying "hmmm that president, or governor, or mayor is not doing as well as we thought, maybe we should vote him out and vote someone else in"....and so it goes. The endless cycle of egotistical, power hungry, corrupt politicians. There are a FEW good ones I might agree, but they are in the vast minority.

This country is two faced, wasteful, a bully....and just thinks they can go RESCUE the world. Suadi Arabia did not EVEN WANT US ON HOLY LAND......but we just said "too bad"....were here to fix stuff hyuck hyuck.....

What this country needs as a president is an astute businessmen, with excellent negotiating qualities. NOT a politician, and I could care less about their military background.

We need a numbers and people man.

Ever hear of "Word Derivation"? Where our English words are derived from? Well, 'Politics' is latin in origin....and is actually two words combined...."poli" meaning many....and "tics" meaning Bloodsuckers

Street Cowboy

10-03-2004, 07:44 PM

Ever hear of "Word Derivation"? Where our English words are derived from? Well, 'Politics' is latin in origin....and is actually two words combined...."poli" meaning many....and "tics" meaning Bloodsuckers

i searioulsy doubt that.. wait a bit i will confirm. much of mt fam is in linguistics so i heaetant to believe "bloodsuckers" that is too easy a root word and language isnt that simples.

its up to the public to push for such issues as education so people can be astute to what thei political leaders will do. the only reason why there are so few "good" poloticians is becous there is an unwarrented fear that anything left wing is communist and anything that is against war is weak. both of whitch are untrue. you cant blame everything on your poloticians. rthey wouldnt be there if people vested real intrest in their practices. and watched them like "big brother"

Street Cowboy

10-29-2004, 08:56 PM

ok were getting to the deadline and i just wanna say

if your an american who votes for bush your an idiot and have no respect for the world you live in!

if there are any bush suporters in canada GET THE **** OUT OF MY COUNTRY!

jake2o04

10-29-2004, 11:22 PM

george bust vs kerry is just like the new south park episode
you either have to vote between a giant douche or a terd

Trimix

10-30-2004, 04:53 AM

...perfect!

emilydickinson

10-30-2004, 07:50 AM

I tried to keep out of this thread, but I can't help it. Two things. One: f*ck voting. What about people like me, felons, who can't vote? Nice 'Democracy'. Two, Bush and Kerry are both members of Skull and Bones, a Yale secret society with LESS THAN 200 LIVING MEMBERS! Are you kidding me? Again, nice 'Democracy'. Voting is a fraud, it's just a way to shut up people for a little while. 'Well, I voted for Kerry, but....'. Kill 'em all and let g-d give 'em haircuts.

mshbiker31390

10-31-2004, 03:54 AM

i dont like kerry or bush or any politicans for that matter, but i thing kerry is better or at least cant do any worse the bush, cuz bush ****in screwed up a lot. Started two ****in wars. One was justifiable, but one is just cuz he ****ing screwed up and lost bin ladin, and didnt want everyone to notice.
He only looks out for his friends, and not the whole US. **** BUSH!!

(who would vote for a dick and bush)

Street Cowboy

10-31-2004, 07:16 PM

Emilydickenson im suprised with you!!! first off your inability to vote sux but that doesnt make the country less democratic. granted america has been loosing its sence of democracy over the last 20 years thats not becouse of the polotitions its becouse of the people. not enugh people bother to affect the polotics of the comunitys around them. for example youwould thonk maby some one in florida would simplify the voting system. its a funny thought but you could always get your leades to look to canada for solutions.. our last election left us with a minority goverment . if that doesnt reak of democracy what does? if you feel strongly instead of abstaining your vote or political view why not push for change? the only way things will change is if the people demand it. im sghure you have lots of friends who can vote. you seem like a smart person why not influance their behavior and maby ten years down the road push for issues that concern you

i have heard the term .. "voting for the lesser of to evils".. that cant be furthor from the truth. bush is evil he has proved it time and time again by commiting atrocitys and lieing to his public. he has no respect for human life of the world around him let alone his own country. he is no better than a dictator. Kerry has not had the chance to let down the public yet. and granted he isnt a far cry from bush . he is not bush . he does not stand for the same polocies nor does he have the blood lust that bush has. the republican campain has doen an excelent job smaering kerry calling him allsorts of names but they have not one acctual grain of eveidance he would do any worse than bush. its hard to do wors than bush .. realy hard! try listening to some news from england or canada about your political choices and you will have a less biased view of who thease people are..

Bike Person

10-31-2004, 09:08 PM

Kerry should win this election because in the 4 years bush has been in office he has not done one single thing right. During the war an terror we had one objective, and that was to find Bin Laden. After Bush failed to do this he got the public to go after Saddam based on wrong information that they had wepons. now we have wasted 200 billion dallars on this that could have went to better use. And is the world safer ...no now Iran and North korea are making bombs.

Wynex

10-31-2004, 09:33 PM

I'm just curious... Why is the election not on sunday? Halloween?

bruisedbob

10-31-2004, 10:50 PM

Well, if they held it on the weekend more people would vote. I hate our government and its red tape.

nutsgeezer

11-01-2004, 12:13 AM

did you know that the cleverest apes in the world have higher IQ's than Bush! factand also Im sure most of us have. I think Bush is something like 93 and Im a 133. Average is 100

Street Cowboy

11-01-2004, 01:31 AM

did you know that the cleverest apes in the world have higher IQ's than Bush! factand also Im sure most of us have. I think Bush is something like 93 and Im a 133. Average is 100

if your so smart you will know that an iq level is subject more to the relationship betewwn the person and the tests they are asked to preform than the over all result. this is why iq tests cannot be used for hireing purposes it is illigal. iq tests are renown for having big variations when put into context with the ethnic and cultural background of the individual. as of current there is no shure way to determan someones iq. i was rated at around 142 for a test made in canada simaler for one made in england but only recieved a 121 in a south african test. givin you have a basic understanding of what an intellegance quota is you will be aware that someones iq is not suposed to fluctuate much more than 4 points in their life time .. apart from dramatic declines as a result of injury or desiese.. and average is 120 the median is 100.

bruisedbob

11-01-2004, 12:52 PM

Ok, this is the part of the thread where those that can't spell relate how intelligent they are.

nutsgeezer

11-01-2004, 01:14 PM

if your so smart you will know that an iq level is subject more to the relationship betewwn the person and the tests they are asked to preform than the over all result. this is why iq tests cannot be used for hireing purposes it is illigal. iq tests are renown for having big variations when put into context with the ethnic and cultural background of the individual. as of current there is no shure way to determan someones iq. i was rated at around 142 for a test made in canada simaler for one made in england but only recieved a 121 in a south african test. givin you have a basic understanding of what an intellegance quota is you will be aware that someones iq is not suposed to fluctuate much more than 4 points in their life time .. apart from dramatic declines as a result of injury or desiese.. and average is 120 the median is 100.ooooh ok touchy! But what is your point?