Bush approval rating 32%

[billytalentisshweet]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070112/ap_on_go_co/congress_bush_ap_poll

If everyone is so pissed about the Iraq war, why don't you guys freaking stand up and do somthing about it? You life in a democracy for ****s sake, start to use the freedoms you are givin.

[Charles]

I saw that on the news but not really much I can do... I have the freedom to drink this can of coke and play some Socom so thats what I will do!

[billytalentisshweet]

No man, that's the beautful thing. You have the freedom to get your friends, get everyone that's angry about all these deaths and you can march through the streets and demand for Bush to get out of Iraq.

[fairtrade]

Republic, not democracy.

[RKK72]

America a democracy?...You must be saddly mistaken my friend, America isn't really free, there already have been protest marches, yet still nothing changes. Bush is actualy increasing troops to Iraq, and really, no one has the power to stop him. Congress can cut off funds, but then they'd be blamed for not supporting the troops, because Bush wouldnt pull out, and they'd just suffer with low funds and poor equipment...

Now America has 2 more years to deal with this idiot, next time, try to not pick a monkey as president..(Or a terminator as governor) :hihi:

[billytalentisshweet]

You guys are right, I was in a weird mood last night. Someone needs to stand up and say something though. Otherwise there is going to be a full out revolution.

[Zero Cool]

There isn't really much that you and me can do, because there is such a small percent of the population that will actually do something. The only people who are going to make a difference is someone in power.

The CIA should arrange to have Bush assassinated.

[sandmbikeco]

if it wasnt for the recent american liberal shift then the war would have already been over. liberal pressure on bush caused him to put restrictions on our troops dragging out the war. if all the liberals would just shut the hell up and let the troops do wat they went over there to do then this would all be over.

It's funny to listen to people bitch about the amount of men we're losing in Iraq. LMFAO. wat 4-5 a week. More people than that get shot in detroit. LMFAO. Wat about WWII 100000 men in a battle. this isnt a war.

[Zero Cool]

It's funny to listen to people bitch about the amount of men we're losing in Iraq. LMFAO. wat 4-5 a week. More people than that get shot in detroit. LMFAO. Wat about WWII 100000 men in a battle. this isnt a war.Haha that's funny, asshole. Only 4-5 men per week? What if that was your son that got blown up, and was only one of the 4-5 men dieing per week? Go enlist in the Marines and hope that you get sent over to Iraq. You'd be in for a rude awakening.

[PhoenixBMX]

liberal pressure on bush caused him to put restrictions on our troops dragging out the war.

go back to your f*cking tom clancy novels man, surely you dont actually believe that?
people killed are people killed regardless, sooner or later it will happen to someone you know/love
oh wait, maybe you won't even care because they died in service of their country..?

lucky for you ive had 1 infraction already :nono

[CMcMahon]

You guys are right, I was in a weird mood last night. Someone needs to stand up and say something though. Otherwise there is going to be a full out revolution.

A full-on revolution? Please. :roll:

If we can't even get people to take a day out of their lives to vote (which, by the way, is f'ing sickening), how the hell do you expect them to pull that off?

[Zero Cool]

The people who are too lazy to vote, don't deserve the right to vote. My rules on voting:

-Don't have a high school diploma? You can't vote. Sure, a few of the most successful people on earth dropped out, but nowadays, most of them live in the ghettos.
-If you work for the government (excluding soldiers - marines, army, navy, air force) you can't vote. You don't want someone who is friends with the guy who is running to vote him in. Especially if he has power in the government.
-if you collect welfare. You can't vote. Why would you vote the guy who is giving you free money out of office? You wouldn't.

The people who don't fall into those categories, but still don't vote are ****ed. They complain about the war, but don't do anything about it. Just like some of you said before.

[Justin]

if it wasnt for the recent american liberal shift then the war would have already been over. liberal pressure on bush caused him to put restrictions on our troops dragging out the war. if all the liberals would just shut the hell up and let the troops do wat they went over there to do then this would all be over.

It's funny to listen to people bitch about the amount of men we're losing in Iraq. LMFAO. wat 4-5 a week. More people than that get shot in detroit. LMFAO. Wat about WWII 100000 men in a battle. this isnt a war.

Finally, someone states the other side of the coin. And raises a good point. Don't believe him? Get the book called "Do Gooders" from the library. (written by some chick, about liberals)
I read somewhere that you're more likely to get killed in Washington DC then Iraq right now. The voilent death percentage vs. population is higher in DC then Iraq.
Sure, Bush is a putz. But who else did we have to choose from? John Kerry? He is a bigger putz. He would have pulled out of Iraq and the country would have COMPLETELY self-destructed, and I don't want to slap my soldier friends and family in the face by protesting what they are doing. I believe in them.

[Zero Cool]

Yes, but it is still death. You arrogant assholes obviously don't know what it is like to lose someone you love.

5 people per day = 5 * 356 = 1825. Are you trying to tell me that 1,825 people are murdered in D.C. every year? Ha. There aren't even that many murders in St. Louis, and St. Louis is the most violent city in the country. Sorry Detroit, you lost 1st place.

EDIT: % vs. population still doesn't matter. There are far more people living in Iraq, thus the crime rate per capita is lowered drastically.

[Justin]

I said it was death percentage vs. population. It's a percentage. Higher in DC then Iraq.
If you lost someone, then I'm sorry. That does suck.
But I have had plenty of family memembers and close friends serve, some still are. They believe in what they are doing, therefore I will support them. If I were to protest, it would be like turning my back on them.

[Zero Cool]

Oh, now I see your point. Sorry for the small rant there... ::oops:

[Justin]

Yeah, I don't like getting into political discussions amongst friends, because I don't REALLY want to argue. That's not why we're here.
I just want people to take a look at an issue from every angle. I try to.
We can all agree that Bush is not doing a great job. That's pretty much a given at this point. And the best way for us to try to make a difference is to protest (as long as you know what you're protesting, who you're affecting, and who your oppostition is) and by voting.
No apologies, we do live in a free country and you have a right to speak your mind. There's nothing wrong with using it. I do , even though sometimes I probably shouldn't!!!

[billytalentisshweet]

A full-on revolution? Please. :roll:

If we can't even get people to take a day out of their lives to vote (which, by the way, is f'ing sickening), how the hell do you expect them to pull that off?

They will when the oil runs out and they're comsumer products are no longer avalible and we can no longer produce our food.

Zero Cool, I totally disagree with your voting rules. Especially the beaurocrats and people receiveing welfare. Using that logic, anyone that owns shares in a company or is a CEO ect. would not be allowed to vote either, seeing as partys take large donations from cooperations. (See - War Profiteering) We have welfare for a reason, and of course a beaurocrat is going to vote in their own interest (duh) that's what the point of voting is. To get someone into power who they and the people around them benifit from.

I think a better way would to have to put why you voted for the person on the ballot and actually have to have a valid reason or the vote is not counted. This way, wether a person has a high school education, is poor, or a beaurocrat they can still vote and everyone would have to think about what they were doing before they dropped it.

Iraq was definately not in a civil war before the States marched in. All your country has done is make things worse for people. Yeah, they removed Hussein, but that didn't do the Iraq people a ton of good.

Supporting a war and supporting the soldiers are two completely different things. I am totally against this war, but I hope every last soldier (on either side) makes it home safe and well. It kind of like on Farenheit 9/11 when the lady of a deceased soldier was talking and she said that the protesters used to anger her so much, and then one day she realized that they were not protesting the soldiers but they were protesting the war.

And how is the Liberals putting pressure on Bush to get out of Iraq (which they are doing a horrible job of. I would never vote Liberal they're just as bad as the Conservatives except for economic issues) doing the opposite and making Bush put more troops in? All he is doing is making up for the 20 000 or so that he has lost since the start of the war. (Why, I won't pretent to know) But please explain the logic behind this.

[CMcMahon]

They will when the oil runs out and they're comsumer products are no longer avalible and we can no longer produce our food.

When oil runs out. That's, what, an estimated fifty years down the line? I'd hope that we get off our asses within fifty years.

You made it sound like you were expecting some sort of revolution to just sprout up right now or something.

[PhoenixBMX]

its only in another 50 years(estimate made by the scientists who are still paid off, whoops sorry, BELIEVE that global warming is a natural phenomenon) because our old mate bush let the oil companies into a reserve in alaska, that has been kept protected for 50 years.
and dont forget he has interests in oil companies....

[CMcMahon]

Global warming is a natural phenomenon. It's just being accelerated by humankind.

[jawn]

When in doubt, blame the liberals! They are just hairy tree hugging hippies anyway, right?

[Zero Cool]

I don't think that himans have anything to do with global warming. Global warming is the Earth recovering from the last ice age. Yes, the Earth is a lot warmer than you think.

Cars, airplanes, and oil/coal burning factories/powerplants cause pollution. They don't really contribute to the warming of the Earth.

[Charles]

They damage the ozone which protects the earth from a lot of the sun's rays.

[CMcMahon]

I don't think that himans have anything to do with global warming. Global warming is the Earth recovering from the last ice age. Yes, the Earth is a lot warmer than you think.

Cars, airplanes, and oil/coal burning factories/powerplants cause pollution. They don't really contribute to the warming of the Earth.

The unnatural increase in CO^2 is most definitely speeding it up. That being said, yes, we're still recovering from the ice age that ended 10,000 years ago. However, I highly doubt that we'll be seeing sea levels rise 80m higher than the current level (the level at which they were at during the Cretaceous) anytime soon.

[Zero Cool]

I'm not sure what to believe when it comes to global warming. There are lots of things that disprove people's crazy ideas about how there will be massive storms due to a rise i nthe average temperature.

Personally, I don't think that global warming will affect you or me.





It's only going to kill the polar bears.

[CMcMahon]

Do you mean that as in "it won't affect us in our lifetimes"? Because, yes, that's probably true.

[Zero Cool]

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

[FBMBMXNJ]

dammmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[billytalentisshweet]

No man, the world has already gone past it's peak oil production and now we're running out. Or at least starting to, notice how oils been so high?

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5267640865741878159&q=robert+newmans+history+of+oil

That's a really really good video. I remcomend watching it.

Global warming is a natural phenominom that has been greatly accelerated by people. Last time it occured there was something like 260 PPM or PPB of CO2 in the atmosphere. Right now there is something like 370. We're either going to push ourselves into another ice age or we are going to go right by it and discover some sort of new hot age. Either way it's going to be a really really bad thing.

[Justin]

No man, the world has already gone past it's peak oil production and now we're running out. Or at least starting to, notice how oils been so high?

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5267640865741878159&q=robert+newmans+history+of+oil

That's a really really good video. I remcomend watching it.

Global warming is a natural phenominom that has been greatly accelerated by people. Last time it occured there was something like 260 PPM or PPB of CO2 in the atmosphere. Right now there is something like 370. We're either going to push ourselves into another ice age or we are going to go right by it and discover some sort of new hot age. Either way it's going to be a really really bad thing.


BillyT, I must admit, I don't agree with everything that you have said in this thread, but props to you for presenting actual info that you've found. A tasteful discussion is always appreciated.

[jawn]

Personally, I don't think that global warming will affect you or me.

hehe, that reminds me of line in a song from A Little Bit Of Fry & Laurie:

"We'll kick the ass of cancer,
and we'll kick the ass of AIDS,
and as for global warmin'
we'll just kick ass wearin' shades"

[billytalentisshweet]

BillyT, I must admit, I don't agree with everything that you have said in this thread, but props to you for presenting actual info that you've found. A tasteful discussion is always appreciated.

I can usually do that. Links to news articles, documentarys ect. It helps a lot.

Just out of curiosity, what do you disagree with and why?

[Justin]

I like what you said about global warming (well, I don't LIKE it, but you presented some good info. Can't argue with that.)
I disagree that OUR COUNTRY made Iraq worse. We got Saddam out, and dissolved his military. But the foreign insurgents coming into Iraq are making it worse. They are not effectively fighting us. They are only killing the Iraqi people, and themselves, with the occasional coalition troop casualty here and there. But they are only targeting each other. It's an ineffective plan to win any governmental power on their part. If they would stop fighting and let the new government take structure, it would work out for the better of everybody. A Democracy by defitnition means equal representation for all parties, and that was our objective going over there. THAT's what I'm supporting, so that in turn is why I support our troops actions.
So I do Support Bush on that matter. Because that's what HE is trying to support. (He's just too dumb to put it into words) Is he doing it effectively? No, because his/congress's strategy was ill-planned and too many unforeseens have occured. Things they SHOULD have been prepared for, knowing how the middle east is. But that's neither here nor there at this point. His intentions were to help Iraq.

[Zero Cool]

We're either going to push ourselves into another ice ageI don't think we'll do that. I have read some books on natural disasters of ancient times. In one book, it talked about how Venus was once a comet flying through space on a huge elliptical orbit. As it got pulled in closer and closer to teh sun, it eventually because a planet in the solar system. At one point, it got so close to Mars that it sucked all of the water and oil right off of it. Then Earth went through Venus' tail, and all of the water and oil was dumped here. That is how the great flood happened. I don't know whether Noah lived or not, but I do know that there was a massive flood. Every ancient civilization writes about it.

Anyway, Venus got so close to Earth that it actually moved the north and south pole. It is said that the north pole (magnetic) was once in current day Minnesota, but was moved to where it is now. Today's poles were once tropics, but when Venus went by, it moved the poles and what is now the north and south pole, were instantly frozen. All of the rain that fell in the "new" poles instantly froze, leaving most of the world frozen. After everything thawed out, there was oil on top on the ground. In current day Saudi Arabia, they would just scoop up the oil and burn it. Venus also formed all of today's largest mountain ranges. It also lowered many too. The lost city of Atlantis was sunk during this time.


Well I'm tired... I'll tell you guys more about this in the morning. :D

[billytalentisshweet]

I like what you said about global warming (well, I don't LIKE it, but you presented some good info. Can't argue with that.)
I disagree that OUR COUNTRY made Iraq worse. We got Saddam out, and dissolved his military. But the foreign insurgents coming into Iraq are making it worse. They are not effectively fighting us. They are only killing the Iraqi people, and themselves, with the occasional coalition troop casualty here and there. But they are only targeting each other. It's an ineffective plan to win any governmental power on their part. If they would stop fighting and let the new government take structure, it would work out for the better of everybody. A Democracy by defitnition means equal representation for all parties, and that was our objective going over there. THAT's what I'm supporting, so that in turn is why I support our troops actions.
So I do Support Bush on that matter. Because that's what HE is trying to support. (He's just too dumb to put it into words) Is he doing it effectively? No, because his/congress's strategy was ill-planned and too many unforeseens have occured. Things they SHOULD have been prepared for, knowing how the middle east is. But that's neither here nor there at this point. His intentions were to help Iraq.

I see where your coming from, but you really can't spread democracy with bombs. The longer the US occupies Iraq the more angry people are going to get, look at my other thread 34 000 civilians dead in this war. I would be pissed off too.

Bush has changed his reasoning for being in Iraq a lot. At first it was because they were a threat with WMDs (which dissappeared) and then it was because they had links to Osoma (don't know how to spell al quiada) which they didn't. Now it is to spread democracy and fight terror. Well it's kind of hard to spread democracy with bombs as I pointed out earlier, and I do remember there being elections. (Or maybe that was Afganistan - but that's not the point) And when the people voted a group that 'sympathized with terrorists' that wanted them out of the country, Bush said 'nope, we're not going to leave, you elected someone that we don't want in power'. Now more soldiers and more civilians are loosing their lives because this keeps getting worse. If you want to fight terror, go to Pakistan. They're the ones letting Taliban into Afganistan (but no-one cares about whats going on there anymore but the Canadians because no one else really has soldiers dying there) And they have sheltered them ever since the US created them (With Every Mistake by Gwene Dyer, it's a collection of his articles over the years). I could get deeper into this and how the US created the Taliban for use in a coupe, or how they trained and funded Osoma Bin Laden, or how they gave Saddam Hussien funding during the time that he was gassing people.

Zero Cool, that all seems kind of sketchy. It would be kind of hard for oil and water to get sucked off the suface of another planet without the two colliding.

[billytalentisshweet]

If you want me to find sources on anything I'll do my best but some of this is from articles that I have read or books or music. Or just my oppinion. I can back most of it up though. Just ask.

[asd]

About the deaths in Iraq, those soldiers died doing what they believed in. They knew when they signed up for the army/marines/w.e that they could die. No one made them sign up. Bush did not make them die, directly or indirectly.

What if we didn't go to war?

It is my personal belief that we would have seen a rise in terrorism in America, because they could just walk all over us.
But you might say "well, the soldiers wouldn't have died".

They died doing something they believed in. They had a chance to say goodbye to their loved ones, knowing the could very well not come home. They knew their risks. And that is damn better than going to work any other day and getting your brains blown out unexpectedly by Saddam and O'Sama because they know that they can get away with it.



Did you know-
Bush is the only president to lower taxes during a war.

[PhoenixBMX]

About the deaths in Iraq, those soldiers died doing what they believed in. They knew when they signed up for the army/marines/w.e that they could die.


untrue. in a book by micheal moore which is a collection of letters from soldiers in iraq, many of them say that their recruiter promised that they would NOT be sent to iraq
blah
and dont you tell me that they believed in it. a lot of them just wanted money to go to college
note that "its hard to spread democracy with bombs" is in my sig now :lol:

[PhoenixBMX]

Did you know-
Bush is the only president to lower taxes during a war.

baaaaaaaaaad idea considering the amount of money going into iraq war

[asd]

baaaaaaaaaad idea considering the amount of money going into iraq war

But if he raised taxes, everyone would be on his ass about that. Its a no win situation.

And I don't care what is said to you, if you sign up for the military, and your country is at war, expect to go overseas. Its common sense.

Even if they only wanted money for college, they still signed up knowing they could die. I'm sorry, but if you sign up for the military while your country is at war, or not even at war, you know that your country could enter war, and you could be sent to war, and you could die. If not, your a dumbass and need to watch some gory WW2 movies.

[Zero Cool]

Zero Cool, that all seems kind of sketchy. It would be kind of hard for oil and water to get sucked off the suface of another planet without the two colliding.This one guy named Immanuel Velikovsky went through tons of ancient records, and they all talk about a comet going through the sky. They also talked about burning fireballs - oil. That explains how all of the water miraculously disappeared from Mars.

If you read some of Velikovsky's books and Planet-X by James McCanney you will understand where I'm coming form.


untrue. in a book by micheal moore which is a collection of letters from soldiers in iraq, many of them say that their recruiter promised that they would NOT be sent to iraqEven if the recruiter lied to them, they should still know that they could end up in war. Like asd said, it's common sence. I mean how can you expect to be controlled by the U.S. government for 4 years without getting sent to fight while a war is going on? Then again, there is the samll, but strange bunch that like to fight, or want to test themselves, and they look forward to getting sent to Iraq.

[Justin]

Oil is a carbon based resource, which comes from Earth. Oil is not from another planet. It's made from decomposition of other organic matter.
Off Wikipedia
"Most geologists view crude oil and natural gas as the product of compression and heating of ancient organic materials over geological time. According to this theory, oil is formed from the preserved remains of prehistoric zooplankton and algae which have been settled to the sea bottom in large quantities under anoxic conditions".
Besides, if oil came from another planet, most people seem to believe that Bush would have invaded it by now.

Every soldier signs up knowing there are risks. If they don't believe it then there is something wrong with them.
Michael Moore is a putz. He has been discredited so many times that I can't take anything he says seriously anymore. Kinda like our President. Or any other politician for that matter.

But there is evidence of chemical weapons, large weapons caches, and weapons that have been moved. Just no weapons were found. From the time it took to sanction Saddam to the actual inspections and military action, everything was moved. We don't know what was moved, or where it was moved to, cough*Syria*cough, but there was evidence of such activity.

It's all a crooked game that we, as civilians, know little about. the goverment knows WAY more than they are telling us, and they already have plans in place that they aren't telling us about. It's just how our government works. To some extent it's for our own safety, but to another extent it's to cover their own asses.

It's true, you can't spread democracy with bombs. We are not the ones doing the bombing. They are bombing each other. We just toss one in there to break it up once in awhile.

And for the record, I vote during every Presidential election. (Most local ones too)I hope that everybody who has that option takes it. It's really the only Political debate you'll ever be in that can result in change.

[Zero Cool]

I don't believe that oil was made on Earth like they say it is. If scientists can make diamonds the same way that they are supposedly made, how come they can't make oil?

[Justin]

Why else would they call it a "fossil fuel"?

I guess it takes a long time to make, and we're simply using it up faster than it can be made.
I have heard that we got titanium from studing the alloys in alien spacecraft. As far as I know, that's the only resource we are using that isn't native to Earth.
You do raise an interesting point though. Why can't they reproduce it? Maybe I'll look more into it. Maybe I'll just stick to talking about BMX from now on, so we don't get into any more arguments!

[PhoenixBMX]

I have heard that we got titanium from studing the alloys in alien spacecraft.


I KNEW IT! leigh ramsdell is an alien. eastern bikes is merely a front for the alien invasion. they are profiting off their titanium technology by selling ti reapers. once they have enough money (approx. 2 more frames to be sold) they will buy a nuke and use it on Fiji.

[jawn]

Yeah it does explain it!

The aliens introduced Ti so that we'd eventually make bikes (with cutouts) out of it and kill ourselves, saving them the effort :D

[Zero Cool]

Maybe I'll just stick to talking about BMX from now on, so we don't get into any more arguments!I don't think that we're arguing. I like to think of it as peacefully exchanging thoughts. :D


Aliens are smarter than we thought... We should invade Area 51, to see if they really have an alien spaceship!

[streettrailpark]

I don't think we'll do that. I have read some books on natural disasters of ancient times. In one book, it talked about how Venus was once a comet flying through space on a huge elliptical orbit. As it got pulled in closer and closer to teh sun, it eventually because a planet in the solar system. At one point, it got so close to Mars that it sucked all of the water and oil right off of it. Then Earth went through Venus' tail, and all of the water and oil was dumped here. That is how the great flood happened. I don't know whether Noah lived or not, but I do know that there was a massive flood. Every ancient civilization writes about it.

Anyway, Venus got so close to Earth that it actually moved the north and south pole. It is said that the north pole (magnetic) was once in current day Minnesota, but was moved to where it is now. Today's poles were once tropics, but when Venus went by, it moved the poles and what is now the north and south pole, were instantly frozen. All of the rain that fell in the "new" poles instantly froze, leaving most of the world frozen. After everything thawed out, there was oil on top on the ground. In current day Saudi Arabia, they would just scoop up the oil and burn it. Venus also formed all of today's largest mountain ranges. It also lowered many too. The lost city of Atlantis was sunk during this time.


Well I'm tired... I'll tell you guys more about this in the morning. :D


Acutally, global warming is happening way too fast due to humans putting CO2 that is millions of years old and was buried underground( in fossil fuels), back into our atmosphere, creating a surplus. This surplus is making the shell of greenhouse gases(natural gases actually help to warm the planet to be inhabitable)much thicker. Basically,sun rays are reflected, alot by ice, off of our planets surface and back into the atmosphere. The greenhouse gases trap some of the rays on their way back to space. The problem is, as the layer thickens more and more rays are bounced back to earth, reheating it. As this happens, the ice melts more and more, and the water that replaces it can absorb much more rays than the ice, accelerating the process. As LAND ice melts, it raises ocean levels. This combined with the raising temperature of the ocean produces a multitude of risks and problems. As the ocean warms, the thermohaline circulation(ya know, just manages EARTH's climate...,no biggie) could slow down, and stop. If this happens, Europe and parts of America recieve an ice age!!! on loan for a few thousand years, yay!:clap: Not to mention totally unpredictable "natural" disasters up to that point.
All of that could happen in your lifetime. We could get lucky, yay, who needs future generations anyway. We are already seeing affects from global warming. If fact, polar bears(one of thousands of species in trouble) are being considered to be an endagered species. As the sea ice melts, they have to swim farther and farther from ice to ice, and are drowning! Also, they are having a hard time hunting seals, as the seals are moving to colder waters, and they can only catch seals on ice, which is dissapearing. This is evidence that unnatural global warming is having effects now!

anyone who says that global warming at its current rate is not being caused by humans, or that it will not have dire effects in the near future, is either uneducated on this topic and/or on Exxon Mobil's payroll(maybe both).

The US of A produces 1/3(ONE THIRD!) of global CO2 emissions, and guess what?! They didin't ratify the kyoto protocol. Canada didn't either, but we are nowhere near that number(not that it matters, Harper follows bush around like a lonely dog, and it's wrong:roll: ). Oh by the way: the vast majority of scientists agree the protocol is the start of a llllooooonnnnngggggg road to bring our planet back to natural CO2 levels, and that it would hardly SLOW the warming, but we can't even do that!!

Sorry if this is a bit incomprehensible, i just realized that all of the facts in my brain sorta fell out randomly into this. People who "aren't sure" if global warming is a threat or not havn't reacherched enough. Almost every scientist not on an oil producer's payroll agrees this is a problem, and yet the mass media is split about 50/50 on the issue. How the hell does that happen!?:hmm:

END RANT

[Zero Cool]

That is just 100% of the shit that is put out there by the crazy environmentalist people. Honestly, I don't believe any more than 5% of it... And what natural disasters do you suppose are going to happen?

What really is causing global warming is the sun. All stars go in cycles like this where the pour out unnatural amounts UV rays. The sun happens to be doing this now, so the Earth is slowly heating up.

Also, for another Ice Age to happen, I believe that the magnetic poles would have to shift again.


The US of A produces 1/3(ONE THIRD!) of global CO2 emissionsThat is bullshit. Russia and China are polluting the Earth at an insanely faster rate than we ever have. That's because they don't have any environmental nut cases. If they want to build something, they build it. There is no one to stop them.