Powefull video on Iraq War.

[billytalentisshweet]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXEfPvbxP_Q&eurl=

It's worth taking a look at.

[specialk440]

Nice link. Definitely worth watching. it's another viewpoint that adds to the harsh reality of why we are really there.

[specialk440]

I'm not saying that that is why we are there, just that the reason is obviously NOT certain, at this point. Just clarifying my first reply.

[asd]

Haha, he jumped the fence to talk to GWB.
thats funny.

You know theirs better ways to talk to the president...

[MCHardmanUK]

No theres not, he had to make a point and thats the best way to do it.

I beleive Bush and Blair, along with that Israeli twat should be tried for war crimes in Iraq, theres no evidence tio prove a valid point to go to war. People are worse off in Iraq now and the whole world is at war with the terrorist crap.

Atleast both wont be in power much longer.

We live in a shit world the best appraoch is be ignorant and prentend nothing is happening its the only way to get through life without feeling like the world is a place full of scum at all levels.

[asd]

No theres not, he had to make a point and thats the best way to do it.

What jump the white house fence (obviously illegal) and get arrested?



We live in a shit world the best appraoch is be ignorant and prentend nothing is happening its the only way to get through life without feeling like the world is a place full of scum at all levels.

yay! lets pretend the twin towers didn't get hit!! That will solve our problems? :D

I'm not justifying us still in Iraq, I think we should have pulled out once we got Suddam. (mission complete, lets not complicate our mission)


But the thing is, our country is at war, for whatever reason, we as citizens should either 1) help our country, or 2) move.

[Vert Street 1202]

^^^^^^^^^ agreed

Nice find

[billytalentisshweet]

What jump the white house fence (obviously illegal) and get arrested? It got him noticed didn't it? And it probably would have been better if they hadn't tried to discredit him with that bag of weed.



I'm not justifying us still in Iraq, I think we should have pulled out once we got Suddam. (mission complete, lets not complicate our mission)

That was never the reason for going it. It was an attempt in gaining another foot hold in the worlds economy. Oil controls the worlds economy right now (As well as our lives - let's just say we won't have to worry about over population when it runs out) And if you could control the worlds oil, you can control the economy.

A prime example of this (on a smaller scale) is Alberta. We have huge tarsands up north which pump out huge amounts of oil and becaue of this Alberta is a very rich province with a strong economy. (if you don't look at the labour shortage)

It won't last long though, shits going to hit the fan when we run out of oil.

[asd]

I thought it was because the Twin Towers got arsed, and GWB declaired a war on terror.

And then it somehow converted to setting up a new government in Iraq, and oil is on the side...

:?

[MCHardmanUK]

No, GWB as started a war forno reason, just like these supposid terorist leaders have and they get found guilty of war crimes, so GWB should as well.

Hes commiting the same crimes as Saddam and the rest.

[MCHardmanUK]

What jump the white house fence (obviously illegal) and get arrested?

So writing a letter will get his attention, breaking the aw is the only way to get people's attention these days.

[Charles]

Write a bomb threat letter to the white house telling them they should leave iraq or else.

[Zero Cool]

Write a bomb threat letter to the white house telling them they should leave iraq or else.You wanna have your ass beaten and then dragged to jail for life? lol.


GWB has a reason for starting the war. He's just not going to share it with the common folk like us.


Be prepared... Iran is going to soon be blown of the Earth. If not by the U.S. it will be Israel. That will start things between the U.S. and Russia because I believe that the conflict between the U.S. and Iran is a proxy war between the U.S. and russia.

[Charles]

I was doing searches on google under the keyword of "Man jumps white house fence" and there are tons of people who jump the white house fence and get taken down by Secret Services.

[Zero Cool]

Really? Why was this guy so publicized? Because he worked for the government?

[Charles]

Probably because in the articles I read it said he had a bag with him that he threw over the fence, they had some guys come in and check it for bombs. Edit: Maybe that was a different guy, I forgot, blah oh well.
Here's some weirdo.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XKNj-LfHLRA

[MCHardmanUK]

You wanna have your ass beaten and then dragged to jail for life? lol.


GWB has a reason for starting the war. He's just not going to share it with the common folk like us.


Be prepared... Iran is going to soon be blown of the Earth. If not by the U.S. it will be Israel. That will start things between the U.S. and Russia because I believe that the conflict between the U.S. and Iran is a proxy war between the U.S. and russia.

Activeiy encouraging war, sad sad sad.

If Bush had a valid reason for invading Ira it would be out by now, what he got to hide if it was valid.

World leaders are a disgraceto man kind.

[Hellfury]

good movie, i watch it and i think he gonna cry now while he talks

[720 TAilwhip]

wow that sucks

[Justin]

I hate getting into political debates with my friends, but I want to say a few things, just keep in mind that I'm not trying to argue.
We are not at war with Iraq. That war ended the day Saddam was captured. He was a bad person, no debate about that. What we ARE at war with is a bunch of foriegn militants coming into Iraq to shoot at Americans, simply because they don't understand democracy, or how it could benefit the middle east. I can't really say that I would understand it either, all they really know is that there are foriegners coming in, overthrowing the government, and trying to change things. You can see why they might be a bit unnerved about the whole thing. But if they gave it a chance they would see how things would be better for everybody. They are just not willing to do that, at least not yet.
There were problems between the US and Iraq long before Bush was in office. There were salso igns of pending terror attacks when Clinton was president, does anybody remeber the US aircraft carrier that got bombed, or the first time the World Trade center got bombed? It was all snowballing before Bush even got into office.
Shit was going to hit the fan sooner or later. Going into Iraq was inevitable, it was going to occur at somepoint, because Saddam was out of control. The problem was that the plan that CONGRESS (not just Bush) came up with did not forsee the rejection of democracy by the Iraqi people combined with Jordanians, Iranians, Syrians, and all the other foreigners who come in to "help" the Iraqi's "try to defeat the zionists". The wheels fell off the whole thing. Now we are at a standstill. Hopefully peace will find it's way to that part of the world, even though there has never been peace there. We can only pray, but also stand behind our troops, not just the US, but everybody over there trying to help smooth things out. I beleive they can do it. Cutting and running is a slap in the face to the troops. It's like we don't belive they can finish the job, and I do not want to give that impression to our brothers, sisters, cousins, and friends who are over there doing what they must.

Like I said, I'm not trying to argue, I respect all of you guys' points of view. Everybody has a right to there own. I just wanted to share mine. Peace.

[asd]

^ well said.

Another thing, has anyone ever seen the movie "the Bourne Identity"? Where this top secret military guy does top secret work. Which may or may not be true, but my third grade teacher's son did top secret work. He would leave on trips months long, and he couldn't say where he was going. The only thing that others could know about his job is "he worked for the government.

Which leads me to believe theirs alot of shit in the government the common people don't know. Which isn't nescissarily a bad thing, if the government is protecting us, but we don't know.

So who are we to judge the government when we know so little?

[Ridebmx23]

I'm not planning on looking at that video anytime soon.
Seriously, What are we fighting for?
Gas? Cause Iran is to poor they try to blame it on others?
Yes, There is 9/11. But that doesnt have to be blamed on the whole country of Iraq.
Therefore, For the government. Those are childish reasons.

[kickemos1664]

well the us has a huge military force. its way to big and they know it. i think they are just trying to show the taxpayers that they are paying for the military to pay them in gas when they cant unbuild tanks planes and rifles or send soldiers to work in a bakery

[teamtrail07]

What jump the white house fence (obviously illegal) and get arrested?




yay! lets pretend the twin towers didn't get hit!! That will solve our problems? :D

I'm not justifying us still in Iraq, I think we should have pulled out once we got Suddam. (mission complete, lets not complicate our mission)


But the thing is, our country is at war, for whatever reason, we as citizens should either 1) help our country, or 2) move.


amen to that

[billytalentisshweet]

That's such bullshit. First of all everyone has the right to choose to live. Being forced to fight in a war is kind of retarded to say the least. Second of all your a dumbass if you will go and kill and die in a war that you don't agree with or beleive in. Especially if you don't even know what it is that you are fighting for. If someone beleives that there is somthing to be gained by their invading another country then let them do it. I would love to see Bush and Blair in Afganistan or Iraq fighing against guerillas. You can fight your corrupt governments wars and say that who ever doesn't support it is a turncoat, but that's a pretty ****ing ignorant attitude. "Support us or shut up." That's how you get facist govts. in place. Always question what your government is up to and if your right then you will have caught them before they can acheive their goals, and if your wrong then big whooptie doo life is about making mistakes.

[diablo90]

my family member died awhile back over there in a helicopter
it was on the news 2 .....
and one of my cousin where ganna get recruited
and he stayed home till they kicked his door down
he had a 9milly pointed to his head... and my aunt was seaming don't do it
she told me he said "i am a united states citizen and i deserved to be free "
then he shot him self and died,....my aunt went crazy and shes in a home now

well besides that im ganna watch the vid in a few :)

[billytalentisshweet]

A country is a imaginary line in the dirt that politicians make. Hardly worth dying for.