Loose Change

[dirkadirka]

see what lies behind the curtain.

Loose Change 2nd Edition Recut - Google Video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=loose+change)

[working on it]

one word: bullshit

thats all it is thats like saying the hollocaust never happend and if you believe this crap I do indeed call you a terrorist much like the ones that crashed the planes

[bikerinthebuff]

thats sketchy, man i wouldnt put it past this government to do shit like that.


by the way, i watched the whole thing

[Worcester Joe]

i just spent the past hour and ahlf watching that.
its pretty interesting.
i don't know what to think tbh...

[dirkadirka]

one word: bullshit

thats all it is thats like saying the hollocaust never happend and if you believe this crap I do indeed call you a terrorist much like the ones that crashed the planes

ignorance is bliss. :clap: :clap: :clap: i love you patriotic americans who know nothing...

lets bring down the terrorist that bombed us on 9/11, who reside in Iraq. woo woo

[billytalentisshweet]

There was another documentary that came out a while ago that put that one to shame since they actually used articles from mainstream new sources to make their points. I'll try and find it.

[billytalentisshweet]

9/11 Press For Truth - Google Video (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5589099104255077250&q=press+for+truth)

That's the one about 9/11

We. Arundhati Roy - Watch It (http://weroy.org/watch.shtml)

That's not about 9/11 but it's still interesting.

[scerbz]

dude, the govt is letting us think we are free. yet really we live in a false reality.

[amishrob]

ignorance is bliss. :clap: :clap: :clap: i love you patriotic americans who know nothing...

lets bring down the terrorist that bombed us on 9/11, who reside in Iraq. woo woo

i love little kids who beleive the crap they read/see on the internet.
conspiracy theorys:hihi:

that 'documentary' has been shot to shit on so many fronts its rediculous.

[fairtrade]

***NEWSFLASH***

Internet videos are a form of mass media too, and they can be used for propaganda purposes too.

***NEWSFLASH***








***BREAKING NEWS***

There is a sucker born every minute


***BREAKING NEWS***

[bikerinthebuff]

the U.S. gov't is pretty ****in twisted guys.

[Zero Cool]

lets bring down the terrorist that bombed us on 9/11, who reside in Iraq. woo wooNo shit they aren't in Iraq. This war could be for many reasons. It could be oil, or it could be a distraction. Who knows? The government has their reasons... I still don't get why the U.S. would put Saddam into power, and then take him out. Like I said, this could be one huge distraction.

Just because some guy makes a video and puts it on the internet doesn't make it true. I actually find it funny how many people believe this stuff.

There should be some new laws made:

-If you don't have a high school deploma... you can't vote
-You're in the military or work as a high ranking officer for the government (state or federal)... you can't vote.

There goes 40% of the dumbasses that vote morons into power. I'm not saying that Marines are dumbasses, but there are reasons that they shouldn't vote... If they work for the government or the military, they may have a biased view on the US. I'm not saying that all of them will, but you can't tell... why take the chance? The high school drop outs? **** 'em. They can't even make it through high school... you want them to decide who is in power? Nope, not me. 95% of college kids shouldn't vote. You're most likely not going to find someone who is in college who knows what they are talking about.

This might not have to do anything with Loose Change, but if you have a president that knows what he's doing, are you going to have problems like pointless wars?

I think that it is time for the United States to have a government make over.

BTW, another problem would be the families that are in power. The Bushes go back to the Civil War, perhaps even farther.

I may only be a kid, but I find politics, computers, BMX, and robotics interesting :lol:.

[nathanjbro]

interesting stuff about voting you have bought up there. but the US is a democracy (well, at least its supposed to be, but lets not get into that arguement.)

And voting is supposed to make everyone equal, just like the courts. Its the whole idea of democracy - the people decide. It makes the poor man the equal of the rich one, the stupid man equal to an einstein and the Black man equal to a white. Thats a quote from To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee by the way.

Quote: If you don't have a high school deploma... you can't vote

I find that quite invalid. Einstein did badly in school. Do u think Pythagoras had a degree? or any of the great ancient thinkers?

not trying to start a flame war here btw

[Zero Cool]

The U.S. is not at all a democracy. It was intended to be a republic. However, it is slowly turing in a democracy. It's too bad that it would take another 200 years to go back...

Anceint thinkers didn't go to high school to get a deploma :wink:

You are right about Einstein. Did he drop-out? However, today most drop outs are drug addicts... If they really wanted to then they would go back and get their deploma. It's obvious to me that they could care less. I'd say the same for people with learning disabilities. If they wanted to be successful, then they would go the extra mile to succeed. I have friends that get a C average, but try so hard. It just amazes me. They will be the ones that are successful. I'll bet you that the 80% of drop outs are incredibly smart... but they just don't give a shit about their life. That is really sad.

Ok, how about this. It would be possible to set up a system that goes back and looks at drop out's grades.. If they had poor effort then they can't vote. They have good effort, then they can vote. It would be a lot of work, but if you get a group of people that want to make the country a better place, then you could do it.

BTW, I bet that Einstein worked his ass off.

[fairtrade]

The U.S. is not at all a democracy. It was intended to be a republic. However, it is slowly turing in a democracy. It's too bad that it would take another 200 years to go back...

Anceint thinkers didn't go to high school to get a deploma :wink:

You are right about Einstein. Did he drop-out? However, today most drop outs are drug addicts... If they really wanted to then they would go back and get their deploma. It's obvious to me that they could care less. I'd say the same for people with learning disabilities. If they wanted to be successful, then they would go the extra mile to succeed. I have friends that get a C average, but try so hard. It just amazes me. They will be the ones that are successful. I'll bet you that the 80% of drop outs are incredibly smart... but they just don't give a shit about their life. That is really sad.

Ok, how about this. It would be possible to set up a system that goes back and looks at drop out's grades.. If they had poor effort then they can't vote. They have good effort, then they can vote. It would be a lot of work, but if you get a group of people that want to make the country a better place, then you could do it.

BTW, I bet that Einstein worked his ass off.


If you're born into power and money, you're set for life, unless you're a real f*ck up.

"Hard work" never pays off.

[emptyishness]

You can also check out "'Iraq for Sale" parts 1 to 8 on youtube.com ... and argue that our government is a responsible power.

Money just does not lie, so the whole "put option" scandal is enough to tell me something is semi-wrong. Maybe not as widespread as any of these independent pieces would want you to think.

But I would argue it is our government’s responsibility to prove these people's claims wrong. And they have yet to launch any defense but there rhetoric.


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[Zero Cool]

If you're born into power and money, you're set for life, unless you're a real f*ck up.

"Hard work" never pays off.What do you mean by "hard work never pays off?"

If you being sarcastic, sorry... I can't tell the difference between sarcasim and seriousness. :lol:

[fairtrade]

Both.

It doesn't.

Garbage cleaning is hard work, mining is hard work, laying concrete is hard work, but does that get you anywhere?

I guess what I mean is, doing hard WORK (as in what you're actually paid to do) gets you nowhere, but working hard to get successful does. Or so it seems.

[NEWRIDE]

Ah, yes. I should mention now that my dad has shitload of these kinds of videos and books, but I seem to ignore them. However, a few days ago, he showed my an article that scared me.

American freedom has already ended. Bush can now inprison ANYONE for absolutely no reason. Read below.

Liberal Candy: Free America will end on Tuesday 10/17 (http://liberalcandy.blogspot.com/2006/10/free-america-will-end-on-tuesday-1017.html)

Oh yeah, and if you want to know more about this kind of stuff, there's a great booklet out there called, "The Secret Terrorists".

[Zero Cool]

JonJon, JoeyPower, and Meggers... I'm coming to Canada!


Both.

It doesn't.

Garbage cleaning is hard work, mining is hard work, laying concrete is hard work, but does that get you anywhere?

I guess what I mean is, doing hard WORK (as in what you're actually paid to do) gets you nowhere, but working hard to get successful does. Or so it seems.When I think of hard work, I think of like you said, working hard to be successful.

[NEWRIDE]

Here's more. There's lots of evidence out there that this was started a LONG time before we even saw bush's face.

http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm

[Butter_Nutts]

i beleive the stuff about the pentagon, its obvious a plane didint hit that

dunno what to think about the towers though, was anyone from new york out riding that day?( yeah i know it was about 4-5 years ago but so what)

[Zero Cool]

ye teh pentagon defo wunt hit bi a plain off topc i becum mr p nd mak teh us bak da way it wuz lik 200 yers ago

Bahaha how can anyone write like that. For the rocord, I don't want to be president.

[billytalentisshweet]

Ah, yes. I should mention now that my dad has shitload of these kinds of videos and books, but I seem to ignore them. However, a few days ago, he showed my an article that scared me.

American freedom has already ended. Bush can now inprison ANYONE for absolutely no reason. Read below.

Liberal Candy: Free America will end on Tuesday 10/17 (http://liberalcandy.blogspot.com/2006/10/free-america-will-end-on-tuesday-1017.html)

Oh yeah, and if you want to know more about this kind of stuff, there's a great booklet out there called, "The Secret Terrorists".

I posted a news story about that a few days ago. It's scary stuff. This is way worse than the patriot act.

[nathanjbro]

i beleive the stuff about the pentagon, its obvious a plane didint hit that

try telling that to the families of people who died in the plane that hit the pentagon.

[amishrob]

try telling that to the families of people who died in the plane that hit the pentagon.

didn't you know? those families were in on it, no plane actually hit the pentagon, no one really died, they all landed safely in PA.
durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[nathanjbro]

lol yeh. btw, to all the people who beleive that missile bs: i wud be careful if i were u. wear a tin foil hat, the US imperialist conspiracy govt mite try to hack into ur brain.

[NEWRIDE]

Here's a vid my dad has that explains ALL of this stuff. Its like two hours long, and I managed to find it on youtube, made in 16 parts. Watch the intro to convinve yourself. This is like a movie, with some sweet music and TONS of clips of terrorist attacks, people getting shot, etc. It is less like a documentary more like something you would actaully watch. Now, there are somethings i don't quit agree with, like the new world order and some other things, but a lot of it seems legit. Watch the intro below.

YouTube - Alex Jones - 911 The Road To Tyranny part 1 of 16 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP2YZGskECM)

[JonJon4420]

sear " icke"
on lime/frost-wire
david icke secrets of the matrix.

in plane sight a bbc documentary aswell...

anyone who believes terrorists with as little resources as they have (technological ones) hijaked 3 planes and crashed em before the most technologically advanced military stopped them has issues, get your brain re-washed. i wont claim i know whos behind it but look at who had the most to gain look at who had the resources to back it up look who is still profiting. its definatley not bin ladin or any terrorists. bin laden is likely a computer generated scapegoat. i mean 400 000 000$ reward. and some greedy muslim extremist wont turn on his boss. yeah right. get a freaking clue you american sheep. your government is making your country into a shithole by exporting jobs, walmart is destroying your national economy, 95% of the products purchased in the u.s. arent even made there and you have no natural resources besides a bit of oil and natural gas in texas. one day soon you wont have a jobs to make the money you need to buy the stuff you need the only service americans will be able to provide would be labour and that means under cutting a third world country. a nation of slaves and your happy living there, the american dream is now the american nightmare. i hate the american companies i work for but im glad they exported the call center jobs to canada to save a buck at your expense... no offence to "aware" americans. but stop being so blindly patriotic your government has corrupted the idea your country has been founded on spit directly in your face raped your sisters/mothers and taxed you for the "service" start something. or at least stop supporting walmart [/rant]

[NEWRIDE]

What jonjon has said is most definately true. I have no respect left for this country. It wont be long before our fragile economy breaks and another government-sponsored terrorist attack finally shoves in the "patriot act" or whatever the hell its called, and our constitution is violated, our civil rights destroyed, and the American nation in ruins. Its true, there is overwhelming evidence out there if you just open your eyes and stop listening to the shit that the media says is true.

[amishrob]

i think its funny that jonjon is using david icke in a serious argument.
that guy thinks the royal family are lizards.

[Zero Cool]

Personally, I think that some time soon someone is going to get voted into office, and make a lot of changes... good changes.

@ JonJon: What he said about the jobs is partially true. All of the low end jobs will be shipped out across seas, or illegal immigrants will be taking all of the ones that are left. However, if you go to school and try hard to become successful, then you'll have a higher end job... one that can't be done in another country. Think about... are they gonna have some Chinese dude that is getting paid $.05 per hour make them a vaccine for a lethal virus? I don't think so.

As for the economy... that is what they terrorists are trying to do. I mean no one in their right mind would send a fleet of ships at us. They'd be blown out of the water. On the other hand if they can get the U.S. economy to crash, then they win. I don't think that will happen until the day the oil isn't priced in USD.

[nathanjbro]

lol gotta love these conspiracy theories, theyre funnier than south park. cheers for my daily dose of comedy NEWRIDE and jonjon, much appreciated.

[billytalentisshweet]

lol gotta love these conspiracy theories, theyre funnier than south park. cheers for my daily dose of comedy NEWRIDE and jonjon, much appreciated.

Yeah, and Israel was justified in attacking Lebanon.

[NEWRIDE]

lol gotta love these conspiracy theories, theyre funnier than south park. cheers for my daily dose of comedy NEWRIDE and jonjon, much appreciated.

Yep. Your welcome. But it was true...