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scottishbmxer
10-11-2006, 02:57 PM
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/0...koreas_nuclear

NKorea says increased U.S. pressure to be considered war declaration
42 minutes ago



SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korea said Wednesday that its reported underground nuclear test was a success, and increased U.S. pressure on the regime over the detonation would be considered an act of war.


The North Korean Foreign Ministry said the communist government could respond to U.S. pressure with "physical" measures.


"If the U.S. keeps pestering us and increases pressure, we will regard it as a declaration of war and will take a series of physical corresponding measures," the North's Foreign Ministry said in a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency. The statement didn't specify what those measures could be.


"We were compelled to conduct a nuclear test because of the U.S. nuclear threat and pressure of sanctions," the statement said. "We are ready for both dialogue and confrontation."


The statement was the first formal announcement from the North Korean government since KCNA reported the Monday test.


"Even though we conducted the nuclear test because of the U.S., we still remain committed to realizing the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula through dialogue and negotiations," the ministry said.


Pyongyang claimed the test didn't violate a September agreement reached at international arms talks, where the country pledged to abandon its nuclear program in exchange for aid and security guarantees.


North Korea's No. 2 leader also threatened more nuclear tests if the United States continued its "hostile attitude" against the communist regime.


Kim Yong Nam, second to North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, also suggested Pyongyang was ready to return to stalled six-party talks if sanctions against his country were lifted, Japan's Kyodo News agency reported from Pyongyang.


Kim, president of the Presidium of the Supreme People's Assembly, said in an interview with Kyodo that Pyongyang's next steps would hinge on U.S. policy toward it.


"The issue of future nuclear tests is linked to U.S. policy toward our country," Kim was quoted as saying when asked whether Pyongyang will conduct more nuclear tests.


"If the United States continues to take a hostile attitude and apply pressure on us in various forms, we will have no choice but to take physical steps to deal with that," he said.


Tensions heated up throughout Northeast Asia on Wednesday, with South Korea's military reportedly readying for nuclear conflict and North Korea warning that an international push for tighter sanctions would be an act of war.


A North Korean official said the isolated, impoverished country would regard full-scale sanctions against it as a call to war, Yonhap news agency reported.


"Sanctions are nonsense. If full-scale sanctions take place, we will regard it as a declaration of war," the official based in Beijing, who wasn't identified, told Yonhap. "The more pressure we get, the stronger our response will be."


Meanwhile, South Korea's military was checking its readiness for nuclear war, Yonhap said. The Joint Chiefs of Staff reported to Defence Minister Yoon Kwang-ung the need for verifying and improving troops' capabilities.


The Joint Chiefs raised the need for introducing state-of-the-art weapons capable of destroying the means of delivering nuclear weapons, the report said.


The Defence Ministry and the Joint Chiefs of Staff declined to confirm the report. The reported move could be expected in line with standard military practice across the world, where officers always prepare for the worst-case scenario.



how do you say, we are proper ****ed now?

fairtrade
10-11-2006, 05:02 PM
Just blow the f*ckers off the map. The world has no need for wannabe superpowers with starving populations.

As usual, it's a shitload more complex than that. Why can't it be like the soap operas?

rgy1993
10-11-2006, 05:08 PM
you cannot escape it.. judgment day is inevitable...
in the words of arnold schwazzenger
we are screwed.... but i reckon the us should nuke them before they nuke you...

Aceman
10-12-2006, 12:15 AM
N korea cant do jack shit right now. They simply dont have the resources to support a war. We know kim jong il is stupid, we'll find out if hes suicidal shortly...

And Just because they have a nuke doesnt mean they have the ability to pack it into the cone of a missile or even drop it from a plane. They're far from that point still. It took decades of cold war for us to even gain that abitity.

Korea is most likely under the misconception that they will get support from china just like the first war.

they're missing 3 things:

1. China also told N korea not too build/test nuclear weaponry. N Korea defied china in that regard.
2. China ONLY likes N Korea as a buffer zone between themselves and S Korea(US ally). They do not want N Korea to be in a position to stand up for themselves or think they'e more than they are.
3. Relations between the US and China are much better than they were some 50 years ago.


However, if we go in and kick they're commy asses out, then china will be pissed. The key is to weaken N Korea, either by war or sanctioning, but to leave the regime intact to keep china happy.

scottishbmxer
10-12-2006, 01:03 AM
well china have already began to stop trading with NK because of this, and aren't being such an ally to them atm.... which is a good thing for the rest of us, cause when china says no, we have to listen...

billytalentisshweet
10-12-2006, 06:35 AM
Kim Jong is really stupid. It's between him and Bush for the biggest dumbass ever award.

Men like these make me wonder if natural selection isn't biased.

punk_porcupine
10-12-2006, 08:05 PM
And Just because they have a nuke doesnt mean they have the ability to pack it into the cone of a missile or even drop it from a plane. They're far from that point still. It took decades of cold war for us to even gain that abitity.

Cold war? Not heard of Hiroshima?

fairtrade
10-12-2006, 08:57 PM
Well, one single Ohio class sub is all it takes to blow North Korea out of existence.

Big countries win nuclear wars. USA would die against Russia, if it was an even match. North Korea is way too small to remotely do anything.

babelfish42
10-12-2006, 09:10 PM
North Korea probably doesn't present much of a threat to countries such as the US and China, who could probably obliterate it within a matter of minutes if it tried anything silly. Anyway, the DPRK's continued reliance on the priciple of Juche (although what the DPRK actually practises is not Juche) has been slowly messing up the country's economy for about 20 years, ever since China began to become disinterested in trade with it. Not to mention the millions who have starved to death in the past decade or two, and the continual human rights violations blah blah blah blah...

But something is going to happen soon, I can feel it in my water.

Aceman
10-12-2006, 11:03 PM
Cold war? Not heard of Hiroshima?

I was more speaking of missile technology, and not conventional bombing. I havnt been completely up to date recently, but I dont think Korea even has a bomber with enough range and speed to drop a bomb like that. Even if they did, they're not getting anywhere close to american soil with it. Between the Aegis System, extensive radar network, the f-22 replacing half our air force, and air-to-air missiles with 140mile+ range, they'll be hard pressed to sneak a damn thing past us.

JonJon4420
10-13-2006, 01:26 AM
I was more speaking of missile technology, and not conventional bombing. I havnt been completely up to date recently, but I dont think Korea even has a bomber with enough range and speed to drop a bomb like that. Even if they did, they're not getting anywhere close to american soil with it. Between the Aegis System, extensive radar network, the f-22 replacing half our air force, and air-to-air missiles with 140mile+ range, they'll be hard pressed to sneak a damn thing past us.

well actually 911 proved that any dipshit with a plane can get as close right up to the world trade center even after one had already hit. the U.S. worries too much about whats going on in other countries and not enough on self-defense. i support kim jong il in his efforts to protect himself and his counrty against the american terrorists. ;)



its all bull money and power is not real.

honestly what is any of this fighting about when you step back and think about it.
you can not find truth if you are part of an organized religion, or are a nationalist.
one world, one vision peace.
life begins at death

george123
10-13-2006, 01:40 AM
their underground test was not a complete success. it had something wrong with it so it did not fully detonate. plus, we have such a large supply of nuclear weapons that we should be set. although, a nuclear war would be the end for everyone if not from the initial blasts, but because of the radiation. **** north korea.

soad
10-13-2006, 01:42 AM
Kim Jong Il is an attention whore. plain and simple. he forced his country to think he is the greatest, and he's trying the same act with the rest of the world. his mindset is stuck in the cold war. this will blow over with sanctions and many many hours of talking, and possibly some public military preparation.

Aceman
10-13-2006, 01:58 AM
911 is why you cant get close enough to do damage anymore.

SOAD I completely agree with you, the hype right now is that things could go bad right now. Nothing is going to, however; as long as nobody does anything stupid.

And theres not going to be a nuclear war whoever said that. A nuke is just a threat weapon. Korea only wants one because they think they can compete with the big world players if they have one. You use nukes to bully countries that dont have em, but when 2 countries have nukes, nothing will happen. MAD theory(mutually assured detruction).

And just to clarify all of this, I'm not a bush supporter or a nationalist or a communist or anything. I am a nuetral atheist, stating things as I see them.

rideohio
10-13-2006, 08:03 PM
On October 10, 2006, an unnamed North Korean official was quoted as saying that North Korea could launch a nuclear missile unless the U.S. sits down for face-to-face talks. However, few, if any, military and defense experts believe that the North Koreans possess the technology to mount a nuclear warhead to a ballistic missile.


America will continue to encourage six-party talks, rather than be drawn into one-on-one negotiations with North Korea

S. Korea has troops prepared for a nuclear war, and China and Russia refuse to consider any military measures against N. Korea. N. Korea also said this:

It will contribute to defending the peace and stability on the Korean Peninsula and in the area around it.
Which is bullshit.

Chris
10-13-2006, 08:36 PM
9/11 watch the documentaries on why it was fixed ( i beleive these documentaries) just search shadow conspiracy on google video and watch part 1 and 2 of the documentary..

back on topic.

anyone watched Team america? ever since then i can't take kim jong il seriously anymore.

america, china, russia, and japan have the power to crush N.Korea with a simple push of a button, i think KJI is playing chicken with them.

JonJon4420
10-13-2006, 09:03 PM
S. Korea has troops prepared for a nuclear war, and China and Russia refuse to consider any military measures against N. Korea. N. Korea also said this:

Which is bullshit.

korea is preparing themselves for an american invasion they wont go to war unless provoked.. like the lebonese.

rideohio
10-13-2006, 09:44 PM
korea is preparing themselves for an american invasion they wont go to war unless provoked.. like the lebonese.
Then why do they keep threatening other countries with war when they aren't being threatened with invasion.

punk_porcupine
10-13-2006, 11:14 PM
anyone watched Team america? ever since then i can't take kim jong il seriously anymore.

All i can think of when it says about Kim Jong Il anywhere is that "im so looonely" song.

PhoenixBMX
10-14-2006, 11:56 AM
1. China also told N korea not too build/test nuclear weaponry. N Korea defied china in that regard.

And nobody but nobody f*cks with china.

fairtrade
10-14-2006, 12:00 PM
Why are all/most Koreans called Kim?









Wait for it...








Wait for it....









Well, why are they? (sorry, no stupid joke here)

rgy1993
10-14-2006, 04:53 PM
maybe north korea dunt know this but china actually has the world 3rd most powerful army... next to america and britain... if n. korea go on with their little attention seeking plan their pretty much screwed.. maybe kim jong ill has ADD or he's suffering from depression.. he should see a phsyciatrist...

rideohio
10-14-2006, 05:01 PM
South Korea said they were ensuring their troops were prepared for nuclear war. A U.S. Army major, stationed along the border between North and South Korea, said that the overall situation was "calm" but that "Communist troops were more boldly trying to provoke their southern counterparts: spitting across the demarcation line, making throat-slashing hand gestures, flashing their middle fingers and trying to talk to the troops."
They are just little punks. Internet gamers would call them noobs.