[News] Director Fork

[Tijmen]

new odyssey forks

I'm a little late with the post, sorry.

Here's the pictures and info on the Director Fork. You may also notice the following new items in the photos of Ben Ward's bike; "Par" Ends, Million Dollar Sprocket, Classic Stem, PLyte Path Tires, Vandero 2 (with G-Sport Axle Technology), 17mm G-Sport 3/8" Axle Bolts, etc.

Aaron Ross is also on the Director Fork, so check his bike out if you see him riding.

Availability for the fork looks like late Spring 2007.

2007 Classic Race and Classic Dirt Forks are in stores now.

We'll post info on more of the new products later this week.

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41-Thermal Director Fork

The Director Fork throws traditional construction methods out the window, giving us the lightest and strongest fork we’ve ever tested. Placing the fork’s proprietary integrated dropouts on the same axis as the leg makes them virtually indestructible when compared to ordinary 4-6mm plate designs. Furthermore, the fork’s exclusive steerer tube and leg junction is significantly stronger than the ordinary tube-to-tube methods that have been used for decades. This new junction design reduces stress in this critical area, and contributes substantially to the fork’s lighter overall weight.

With a strength-to-weight ratio that is unparalleled, the Director Fork is designed to handle the impacts of every style of riding. Light enough to race, and strong enough for trails, street, park and vert.

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- 1 lb. 15 oz. (uncut 170mm steerer tube with pre-load bolt installed)
- Butted and tapered “direct” legs fully eliminate rail and grind hang-ups
- Hollow, integrated leg dropouts are stronger than traditional designs by a massive margin
- Steerer tube and leg joint is significantly stronger than conventional designs
- New flush-mount, cable friendly, 7075 pre-load bolt
- Rustproof finishing prior to powdercoating
- 3/8” axle slots only
- Traditional axle offset and steering geometry
- Optional brake mounts
- Black, Limited Editions
- US and Foreign Patents Pending

[Worcester Joe]

erm... no thanks.
they look so bad.

[sixdegrees]

Hmmmm, the design and engineering seem to be good and I like that kind of thing, but the looks..... euuugh !!

:)

[matthewyau89]

im sure there design is strong enough for all kinds of riding. If they werent, i dont think Aaron Ross would be using them, seeing as he jumps massive stairs. they just looks scary! and how would you know if they were bent or not.i've never broken a fork at the dropouts before, so i think i'll stick to my sunday colours.

[MAX POWER]

i think they look ugly, but i gotta hand it to ODY, they're one of the only companies actually trying to innovate BMX products beyond the traditional status quo. i give them respect for trying something that hasn't been done before.

[sixdegrees]

i think they look ugly, but i gotta hand it to ODY, they're one of the only companies actually trying to innovate BMX products beyond the traditional status quo. i give them respect for trying something that hasn't been done before.

IMO Fly are the current 'innovative' company out there. Just look at what they've been coming up with over the past few months

- Different length grips
- Fly bash guard
- 2/3 pce cranks (with single bolt system)
- Internal gussets on frames
- Int h/set style spanish BB
- built in chain tensioner
etc, etc

But I agree Ody are preety good at trying to be innovative as well....... but thats not necessarily a good thing as those forks go to show they are butt-ugly and form goes a long way in selling soemthing.

:)

[fairtrade]

IMO Fly are the current 'innovative' company out there. Just look at what they've been coming up with over the past few months

- Different length grips
- Fly bash guard
- 2/3 pce cranks (with single bolt system)
- Internal gussets on frames
- Int h/set style spanish BB
- built in chain tensioner
etc, etc

But I agree Ody are preety good at trying to be innovative as well....... but thats not necessarily a good thing as those forks go to show they are butt-ugly and form goes a long way in selling soemthing.

:)

Damn, the second I read his post, I was thinking "Fly...?", you had to beat me to it...


The difference is that Odyssey has a more intellectual *cough*vocal*cough* online fanboy army in comparison, so we know who wins. Oh, and they don't haplessly churn out idea after idea Thomas Edison style in the vain hope that one in 2000 will work and make them hit the jackpot.


Eastern deserves a mention too, I guess, although I wouldn't say punching holes into something is innovative.

[punk_porcupine]

Kinda hard to tell if you bent your forks...

[advertisehere]

its only 2 oz lighter than the race forks.

[rideohio]

It's really ugly but the engineering is great.

[JoeyPower]

Sometimes style is more important than function, this is one of those cases.

I'll stick with my .3 heavier ID forks, thanks.

[mtn]

look at it sideways, so disgusting

[scerbz]

they look scary. id think even with all that mumbo jumbo they will still bend faster.

[ATP]

They look like walmart forks. I have a apir that are bent that way but of course that would be from throwing the bike off a vert wall.

[Mathias]

I think they look dumb.

[fairtrade]

look at it sideways, so disgusting



In that photo, it's not bad at all, but in the other one...

[MAX POWER]

does this not effectively change the angle of yoru headtube? i bet it probably makes a 75 deg headtube feel like a 74.5, maybe a 74.

imagine the increased centrifigual momentum on tailwhips! i bet if you throw the bars, they won't spin as fast due to the same reason.

[fairtrade]

It doesn't change anything, the offset is the same.

Just that *some* of the fork blade weight is shifted forwards, meaning it'll be *that* much harder.

[ATP]

Idk they actually look good to me, for some odd reason. But I would NEVER run those for looks, if i needed that super strength then sure.

[Oddity]

These things are awesome...lighter than races and stronger than dirts. The only thing I'm not too keen on is the 10mm thick dropouts.

[Aceman]

Thats my new fork for sure. I know most of you think its ugly, but I love the look of em.

It makes the bike look soo clean. Especially because I'm brakeless.

Anyone know how much they're gonna cost? My guess is around 120.

[fairtrade]

What would be that wrong with having forks like that but with no offset?

[ATP]

Thats my new fork for sure. I know most of you think its ugly, but I love the look of em.

It makes the bike look soo clean. Especially because I'm brakeless.

Anyone know how much they're gonna cost? My guess is around 120.

I'm sure the'll be either that, or upwards $150 just because they're so light and "strong". Even if they are really expensive they won't be for to long.

[MAX POWER]

What would be that wrong with having forks like that but with no offset?

???

the drops have zero offset, or am i missing something? the zero offset of the drops is compensated by the bend at the steer tube, no?

regular forks with zero offset = flat forks, right?

[advertisehere]

i think he means that the forks would have the regular shape w/ the new steerer tube weld design and the dropouts would have the regular offset

[fairtrade]

I meant, why not make them like flatland forks?
Same design, zero offset.

[seadonkeyraypiss]

^because then they would be flatland forks. Handling would be very twitchy.

[fairtrade]

Only until you got used to it...

[Aceman]

^But along those lines soo does riding with a bent crank arm. You get used to it, but it doesnt mean its right.

[babelfish42]

eeewwwwwwww they look like race forks! avoid!

[gsportgeorge]

Just to claify:-

1. The legs are not "bent" forward. They are welded on with an offset.
You dont have chainstays that run parallel to the ground, then weld the dropout hanging off the bottom, you simply run the tube "directly" from where the load is applied to where it is grounded. Hence "Director" forks.

2. These forks are only a little lighter than the new Classic Race Fork. But these are an all round fork, with "indestructable" dropouts. Forget, bending or cracking dropouts, it isnt going to happen. Rememeber, these forks are only a little lighter, but they are also STRONGER than the old forks!

3. Yes the look is going to take some getting used to. That's why we are still going to be doing the "Classic" forks and WONT be forcing people to buy these. These forks are intended for people who like the idea of the benefits AND the cleaner look of a simple tube without a manky bit of plate welded on the bottom edge.

4. Price and Availability are still subject to change but we hope to have them out sometime in early 2007 for just a bit more than the "Classic" fork.

G.

[Matrix]

Atleast George will reply and explain things. Unlike most compinies, so far we have what 3 that post here off and on?

I'm not sold on the forks, but I thank you for explaining the in's and outs of them.

[fairtrade]

^But along those lines soo does riding with a bent crank arm. You get used to it, but it doesnt mean its right.


Why isn't it "right"?

If a crank arm is bent, it won't affect your riding when you get used to it (as long as both are bent equally). And you can't compare old bent parts to something straight from the factory.

[seadonkeyraypiss]

Only until you got used to it...


I don't know about you but I don't buy random sizes for my parts and trust that I will "get used to it." For example, I like a 21"tt and I like it. If I were to look for a new frame I would start with looking at frames that offer the 21"tt size. I won't buy some frame in 20.5 or 20.25 because I'll "get used to it." I know what is comfortable to me. Like a lot of other people that ride I would be concerned with how my bike feels to me because I spend most of my time riding it instead of looking at how clean my forks look because the legs aren't offset forward (that's why you're wondering why Odyssey doesn't make those forks with zero offset right? You want it to look a lil nicer?). Moral of the story...function > form....and form will always follow function.

[jawn]

There were cranks in the 90's that were made with a bend in the arm, I can't remember who made them though :o

[radripperaj]

i thought these things were suppose to come out in may? ugh this makes me mad cause i wanted them to be my bday present, which is may 30th. anyone know how much longer?

[mybikesucksalot]

i think they might have stopped the production of these.

with the classic race weighing an ounce heavier why would anyone want this?

[Wombles]

grrr i had to read all the pages of this till i saw the date! :@ i like em though, they look nice

[ridealot100]

They are hideous and with that bend is just pushed that stress area way harder.
Im happy with my pitchfork xlts.

plus 3/8ths only is pretty stupid.

They look like bent flatlanding forks.

[lalo pro]

i have the classic dirt, and i'm going to get the classic race, but never those uggly forks!!!, each fork made by oddysey have lifetime warranty, so...

[Wildbill]

They are hideous and with that bend is just pushed that stress area way harder.
Im happy with my pitchfork xlts.

plus 3/8ths only is pretty stupid.

They look like bent flatlanding forks.

HEY, why dont you read instead of assuming somthing? I thought these forks were bent forward too but thats not what they did. If you read right at the top, George explains the forks arnt bent forward but welded at a forward angle.

[freecoasterkid]

yeah.
but hes saying he impact of forks that are at a more bent angle,
wouldcreate more stress.
which seems pretty plausible.

but really,
these are hideous.
and look bent,
making htem look that much worse.

[Prodigy]

i love the look of them and i might buy them if they arent to much

[ridealot100]

well if youd take some time to think youd realize that with a bend or not they still angle outwards causing more stress.
Its just leverage.

Take a straw and hold it straight up and down so its 90 degrees with the table and slam it down and if you get it right it wont bend becuase it has no leverage and its structurally strong.

Now take the straw and hold it at and angle and push it onto the table.
It will bend very easily becuase all that force has to go somewhere.
The straw was perfectly straight, but the angle it was held at caused it to bend.

can you comprehend that?

[Oddity]

well if youd take some time to think youd realize that with a bend or not they still angle outwards causing more stress.
Its just leverage.

Take a straw and hold it straight up and down so its 90 degrees with the table and slam it down and if you get it right it wont bend becuase it has no leverage and its structurally strong.

Now take the straw and hold it at and angle and push it onto the table.
It will bend very easily becuase all that force has to go somewhere.
The straw was perfectly straight, but the angle it was held at caused it to bend.

can you comprehend that?

Do you run a 90 degree heatube though?

Shut up.

They angled the miter cut on the fork legs which gives you more welding surface, the "Barbie Vag" on the end of the steerer tube also adds more area. Thus making it stronger.

[radripperaj]

well if youd take some time to think youd realize that with a bend or not they still angle outwards causing more stress.
Its just leverage.

Take a straw and hold it straight up and down so its 90 degrees with the table and slam it down and if you get it right it wont bend becuase it has no leverage and its structurally strong.

Now take the straw and hold it at and angle and push it onto the table.
It will bend very easily becuase all that force has to go somewhere.
The straw was perfectly straight, but the angle it was held at caused it to bend.

can you comprehend that?


yeah but regular forks dont take the force straight from the bottom anyway they have lil thin plates welded onto the front to hold the wheel, so if you think about it is the plates that take a lot of the force. i think this design is way better. i def will be getting these forks when they come out

[Wildbill]

well if youd take some time to think youd realize that with a bend or not they still angle outwards causing more stress.
Its just leverage.

Take a straw and hold it straight up and down so its 90 degrees with the table and slam it down and if you get it right it wont bend becuase it has no leverage and its structurally strong.

Now take the straw and hold it at and angle and push it onto the table.
It will bend very easily becuase all that force has to go somewhere.
The straw was perfectly straight, but the angle it was held at caused it to bend.

can you comprehend that?

can you comprehend my foot up your ass?

I didn't put you on the spot and make you look like a dumbass, although you seem to do that yourself. I was explaining that its been said already the forks arn't bent, they are welded at angle. READ before you say something.

I agree that i don't think these forks will be any stronger with its angled weld. But who knows until you ride them for a year first hand and see how they hold up. I think they look ugly but if these were stronger than my OG non heat treated pitchforks, id run these merely b/c they're stronger.. look are 2nd to strength.

[radripperaj]

can you comprehend my foot up your ass?

i was leaned back in my chair and literally fliped out backwards with laughter when i read that def made my night :)

[sledneckadam]

Hmmm. If you bent your forks and they were cracked and you didnt notice....SNAP

Weird dunno what to think.

[ridealot100]

well I apologize for using rationing you immature dirt bag.

Grow up or go die alone somewhere becuase the world needs less idiots.

And btw. your the one that took offence. So wtf?

stupid people..