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dave0
07-16-2006, 09:44 AM
Well the war in here has been going for 4 days, in the first 3 days, there were 750 rockets dropped in several location in Israel.
Today i woke up hearing the news: "8 people killed, 5 injured hard from a rocket dropped in a train station". They showed the station, there were pools of blood, horrifying, people live in the basements already, every one in the north living in terror.
Yesterday, there was found a body of a soldier, 21 years old, a rocket set up in the shore hit the ship, the ship system closed in the lower sections 4 people, they are afraid that they are no longer among us.
In the north its raining rockets, just now it has been said that the arabic people have more rockets, that can reach longer distances, that can hit the center of the country, where me and my family lives, messeges to remain far from walls, windows are given every time that the news are running.
Thieves are heading towards the abandoned houses, steal items, everything, its madness here.
Everyday helicopters flying back and forth, planes, its a real war here.

rbimdxe
07-16-2006, 11:50 AM
yeah man, i been hearin about this alot.

sorry to hear that its like that, its just a joke what wars start over.

H4RDLander
07-16-2006, 11:58 AM
well it happen to me, maybe 5 years ago... wer terrorist try to undertake our city, and we all in danger... :D

nathanjbro
07-16-2006, 12:20 PM
war sux. im jewish, we are following the news 24-7 now. lets hope for peace and a quick end to this.....

H4RDLander
07-16-2006, 01:03 PM
wats the war all about..?:?

MCHardmanUK
07-16-2006, 01:06 PM
wats the war all about..?:?

Religion I think.

On the subject of war what at the West Bank stuff, I'm sure I've heard and read that the Jews settled there 3,000 years ago and the Palistines came there after. Now I'm being verty crude in my thinking but I thought that war was over who the land belongs to and surely by historical records the Jews were first there so its theirs.

I hate religion with a passion it is a major contibutor to all the worlds problems along with greed and power.

Carsten Bonde
07-16-2006, 01:09 PM
That Friggin Sucks... Idiot People is the power want more...

I Fell for you....

dave0
07-16-2006, 02:33 PM
wats the war all about..?:?

Religion I think.

On the subject of war what at the West Bank stuff, I'm sure I've heard and read that the Jews settled there 3,000 years ago and the Palistines came there after. Now I'm being verty crude in my thinking but I thought that war was over who the land belongs to and surely by historical records the Jews were first there so its theirs.

I hate religion with a passion it is a major contibutor to all the worlds problems along with greed and power.
ye, the war is all about land... the new rockets are from iran, they can cause more damage and have range of 43 kilometers.... :?

fairtrade
07-16-2006, 02:43 PM
wats the war all about..?:?

Religion I think.

On the subject of war what at the West Bank stuff, I'm sure I've heard and read that the Jews settled there 3,000 years ago and the Palistines came there after. Now I'm being verty crude in my thinking but I thought that war was over who the land belongs to and surely by historical records the Jews were first there so its theirs.

I hate religion with a passion it is a major contibutor to all the worlds problems along with greed and power.

More like greed is the main problem (hint, capitalism :roll: ), and they tend to lust for power, and justify it with religion.

Ba-doom-tish!!!

Arran
07-16-2006, 02:45 PM
wats the war all about..?:?

a 19 year old israely (spell) soldier was kidnapped and the gorvernment demanded he be returned safely but he never was then another 2 soldiers were kidnapped so israel declared war. thats my understanding on how this war broke out.
Hopefully it will be over soon.

fairtrade
07-16-2006, 02:52 PM
A) Isreal is over-reacting shitloads and are only going to make things worse for themselves.

B) Hezbollah are on a suicide mission.



Idiocy on both sides, at least we can clean the gene-pool some.

dave0
07-16-2006, 02:54 PM
wats the war all about..?:?

a 19 year old israely (spell) soldier was kidnapped and the gorvernment demanded he be returned safely but he never was then another 2 soldiers were kidnapped so israel declared war. thats my understanding on how this war broke out.
Hopefully it will be over soon.
thats another reason, but before that they began to drop rockets on us, average of 750 rockets per 3 days 8O

H4RDLander
07-16-2006, 04:55 PM
wats the war all about..?:?

a 19 year old israely (spell) soldier was kidnapped and the gorvernment demanded he be returned safely but he never was then another 2 soldiers were kidnapped so israel declared war. thats my understanding on how this war broke out.
Hopefully it will be over soon.
thats another reason, but before that they began to drop rockets on us, average of 750 rockets per 3 days 8O

yeah right.... :x religions... the jews and the "i dont knw" religion are in war... is this what their GODS tell them in their holy book or bible or koran or whatever?... :?

well i dont knw whats the real reason anyway... so no offence..

but yeah.. Cool Stupid Country are in war... :twisted:

anyway, are they UN related..? or sumthing, to hav sum allied country thingy... so more people well die ....

i dont knw... 8O im just a kid anyway.. i dont knw anything about it... :?

Carsten Bonde
07-16-2006, 05:16 PM
I mean its Becuz some country gave some others land to the Jew´s

billytalentisshweet
07-16-2006, 07:23 PM
at least we can clean the gene-pool some.

Why do we need to clean the gene-pool of innocent civilians? Haven't you heard the new reports? Almost all the people dying have nothing to do with this war and probably don't want anything to do with the war.

Not that it makes it right to kill anyone even if they are a soldier, but what would you even thinkn that for? These are all people just like you and me, and they are out there dying and watching their families and friends die.

What gets me is that rich countries (ie. Canada, U.S) are in Afganistan right now bragging that they "killed 10 Taliban fighters." They are people too, and our countires are bragging that we have killed them and are trying to make them look like machines that have no feelings. The word insurgents is also used like this, to make them seem less human.

HeaTreatedGoodness
07-16-2006, 07:39 PM
at least we can clean the gene-pool some.

Why do we need to clean the gene-pool of innocent civilians? Haven't you heard the new reports? Almost all the people dying have nothing to do with this war and probably don't want anything to do with the war.

Not that it makes it right to kill anyone even if they are a soldier, but what would you even thinkn that for? These are all people just like you and me, and they are out there dying and watching their families and friends die.

What gets me is that rich countries (ie. Canada, U.S) are in Afganistan right now bragging that they "killed 10 Taliban fighters." They are people too, and our countires are bragging that we have killed them and are trying to make them look like machines that have no feelings. The word
insurgents is also used like this, to make them seem less human.

ya american soldiers talk about how these "insurgents" are terrorists, and for the most part many are, but are we any better to kick down the doors of innocent families who have nothing to do with the war and point a rifle in their face, screaming at them in a language that they can't even understand. i dont want to sound like i dont care about the war in isreal but its just another thing that US soldiers can get sent over for. i really hope our president gets assassinated, although, who would waste a bullet on him.

dave0
07-16-2006, 09:28 PM
at least we can clean the gene-pool some.

Why do we need to clean the gene-pool of innocent civilians? Haven't you heard the new reports? Almost all the people dying have nothing to do with this war and probably don't want anything to do with the war.

Not that it makes it right to kill anyone even if they are a soldier, but what would you even thinkn that for? These are all people just like you and me, and they are out there dying and watching their families and friends die.

What gets me is that rich countries (ie. Canada, U.S) are in Afganistan right now bragging that they "killed 10 Taliban fighters." They are people too, and our countires are bragging that we have killed them and are trying to make them look like machines that have no feelings. The word insurgents is also used like this, to make them seem less human.
just today 8 workers were killed in a train station when a rocket fell, and dozens of injured.

billytalentisshweet
07-16-2006, 11:37 PM
Destruction like that is horrible. And the thing is that most people don't care until things like that happen near them, then they realize how ****ed up this place is and freak out.

"Normal people do ****ed up things when ****ed up things become normal."

I'm going to go ride and get my thoughts together and I might make another post when I get back.

Luke2605
07-17-2006, 12:29 AM
Man they got war in there blood.

H4RDLander
07-17-2006, 01:44 AM
at least we can clean the gene-pool some.

Why do we need to clean the gene-pool of innocent civilians? Haven't you heard the new reports? Almost all the people dying have nothing to do with this war and probably don't want anything to do with the war.

Not that it makes it right to kill anyone even if they are a soldier, but what would you even thinkn that for? These are all people just like you and me, and they are out there dying and watching their families and friends die.

What gets me is that rich countries (ie. Canada, U.S) are in Afganistan right now bragging that they "killed 10 Taliban fighters." They are people too, and our countires are bragging that we have killed them and are trying to make them look like machines that have no feelings. The word insurgents is also used like this, to make them seem less human.
just today 8 workers were killed in a train station when a rocket fell, and dozens of injured.

davey, is ur city far from the war... :?

kalmkidd
07-17-2006, 01:49 AM
listen man i dont know u. but be safe and keep ur damm head up bro.. good luck to u and ur country, and god bless ur family and friends aswell

a
07-17-2006, 02:42 AM
wats the war all about..?:?

Religion I think.

On the subject of war what at the West Bank stuff, I'm sure I've heard and read that the Jews settled there 3,000 years ago and the Palistines came there after. Now I'm being verty crude in my thinking but I thought that war was over who the land belongs to and surely by historical records the Jews were first there so its theirs.

I hate religion with a passion it is a major contibutor to all the worlds problems along with greed and power.
The argument for both sides goes something along the lines of their god wants them to have the land.

KoolAidGuy
07-17-2006, 03:15 AM
you really should try and move to a different country

it sucks doesnt it that ur home is no longer a safe place

hope everything gets better

babelfish42
07-17-2006, 03:43 AM
for fcuks sake, can the semitic (jews, arabs and tons of other peoples) people try and sort out their problems without bombs, rockets and general mayhem? As fairtrade said, the Israeli government, not exactly a humanitarian entity, is overreacting by blockading Lebanon, whereas Hezbollah are being insane as usual. It is worthwhile to point out that Israel occupied southern Lebanon until the year 2000, on very shaky grounds which were heavily condemned by the UN, and Hezbollah, for a while, were seen as genuine freedom fighters, who have now moved more towards radical terrorism. In my opinion, both the Israeli government and hezbollah are equally as stupid, and both have terrible track records of political deceit and vicious acts of violence against civilians, such as bombing refugee camps, extra-judicial killings, suicide bombings, kidnap, murder etc.

soad
07-17-2006, 03:47 AM
make sure you have a gas mask. you never know when you can use oe of those. you be safe now, ya hear?

whats that saying? good luck and godspeed.

H4RDLander
07-17-2006, 04:25 AM
wana fight for ur own freaking religion....? :? stupid i think... :x

is it really a religious thing to kill people..? :x they maybe worshiping SATAn... :roll:

rgy1993
07-17-2006, 07:44 AM
hey that sux man. i'm half arab myself and i dont see why their makin such a big deal out of it. i mean like i get along fine with my jewish friends at school but like.. wtf!! those arabs are the gayest living pieces of shit ever!!! just kep ur head low and pray that this whole thing will be over soon enough. if things get to rough the good ol' US army'll step in and shoot those their arab asses down. anyway... stay alive man. keep ur head low.

billytalentisshweet
07-17-2006, 09:04 AM
hey that sux man. i'm half arab myself and i dont see why their makin such a big deal out of it. i mean like i get along fine with my jewish friends at school but like.. wtf!! those arabs are the gayest living pieces of shit ever!!! just kep ur head low and pray that this whole thing will be over soon enough. if things get to rough the good ol' US army'll step in and shoot those their arab asses down. anyway... stay alive man. keep ur head low.

Ha. Thats a sick joke and a half. Why do you think like that? Killing the '*** arabs' will only generate more hate and violence. That is no way to solve this problem.

This whole thing disturbs me. It shows what propaganda and ignorance can do to people. I wonder if they even know why they are fighting, and if they do why do they think it's ok to kill over land? Do we even know why they are fighting? Is ther even a reason? There are so many questions that I have but fell like they can't be awnsered because no-one knows the awnser, or that there is no good awnser.

Could this be the coming of the end?

"Think to yourself, if democracy is so good, then why are we running all over the world trying to shove it down peoples throats?"

dave0
07-17-2006, 10:03 AM
hey that sux man. i'm half arab myself and i dont see why their makin such a big deal out of it. i mean like i get along fine with my jewish friends at school but like.. wtf!! those arabs are the gayest living pieces of shit ever!!! just kep ur head low and pray that this whole thing will be over soon enough. if things get to rough the good ol' US army'll step in and shoot those their arab asses down. anyway... stay alive man. keep ur head low.

Ha. Thats a sick joke and a half. Why do you think like that? Killing the 'g*y arabs' will only generate more hate and violence. That is no way to solve this problem.

This whole thing disturbs me. It shows what propaganda and ignorance can do to people. I wonder if they even know why they are fighting, and if they do why do they think it's ok to kill over land? Do we even know why they are fighting? Is ther even a reason? There are so many questions that I have but fell like they can't be awnsered because no-one knows the awnser, or that there is no good awnser.

Could this be the coming of the end?

"Think to yourself, if democracy is so good, then why are we running all over the world trying to shove it down peoples throats?"
well there was an argue about lands, for hell of a lot years, but now the arabs have kindapped more 2 soldiers, and have 3 soldiers kidnapped, israel is trying to rescue them....
in my opinion arab people are crazy....
"im so proud of my son, he is a terrorist, he will kill people, and i get money"
i mean wtf is that?
and if there was a small child killed in a fight, they have parties, demonstrations, celebrations, and when we kill there children, by mistake, we are very sorry about it....
they are crazy...

rgy1993
07-17-2006, 10:08 AM
i just heard on the news.. if they dont stop the bombing within like a month or somethin the UN are gonna step in and clear things out their way....

dave0
07-17-2006, 10:20 AM
i just heard on the news.. if they dont stop the bombing within like a month or somethin the UN are gonna step in and clear things out their way....
and they will stop bombing on the 26th day... i bet :roll:
they are pussies, just can attack un-armed citizens.....

H4RDLander
07-17-2006, 10:44 AM
well.. i dont knw, what side is this.. :?

their to close... 8O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFlYw9awR5o


*edit*
cool i luv the music.... the video explain everything... :?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUh3AORvqMI

07-17-2006, 10:50 AM
damn, good luck man, stay safe
i guess that also makes another war for america to fight
which means when i enlist, ill be goin to war too

fairtrade
07-17-2006, 11:21 AM
Ha. Thats a sick joke and a half. Why do you think like that? Killing the 'g*y arabs' will only generate more hate and violence. That is no way to solve this problem.

This whole thing disturbs me. It shows what propaganda and ignorance can do to people. I wonder if they even know why they are fighting, and if they do why do they think it's ok to kill over land? Do we even know why they are fighting? Is ther even a reason? There are so many questions that I have but fell like they can't be awnsered because no-one knows the awnser, or that there is no good awnser.

Could this be the coming of the end?

"Think to yourself, if democracy is so good, then why are we running all over the world trying to shove it down peoples throats?"

Because it's not democracy that's being shoved down everybody's throats, it's capitalism, and the ideal of making money at the expense of society.

Do American women NEED make-up and surgery to stay looking like women when they're older? :wink:

As for clearing the gene pool, I wasn't talking about civillians.

dave0
07-17-2006, 11:35 AM
well.. i dont knw, what side is this.. :?

their to close... 8O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFlYw9awR5o


*edit*
cool i luv the music.... the video explain everything... :?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUh3AORvqMI
the 1st video is arabic side, why did the idiot go out in middle of the alert?.....

07-17-2006, 12:11 PM
[quote=billytalentisshweet]Ha. Thats a sick joke and a half. Why do you think like that? Killing the 'g*y arabs' will only generate more hate and violence. That is no way to solve this problem.

This whole thing disturbs me. It shows what propaganda and ignorance can do to people. I wonder if they even know why they are fighting, and if they do why do they think it's ok to kill over land? Do we even know why they are fighting? Is ther even a reason? There are so many questions that I have but fell like they can't be awnsered because no-one knows the awnser, or that there is no good awnser.

Could this be the coming of the end?

"Think to yourself, if democracy is so good, then why are we running all over the world trying to shove it down peoples throats?"
nice contradiction there
if its so good why shoce it down ppls throats....ummm anwered ur own question just a bit, eh?

and these ppl DO kno why their fighting and so dont we, everyone on earth knows why, but some of u guys r just so uptight and nervous and shit about "propaganda" that EVERYTHING u see or hear about is propaganda to u
how bout just stfu, and live in the real world
i bet u think that this war is something the US government planned, huh?

damon
07-17-2006, 01:41 PM
there r 3 evils in this world religion, power and politics (no offence to any1 who's religious but i am totally against it) this is how it works: powerful politions use religion as an excuse to take over other countries and become more powerful. And war is useless to any1 with a self constionce.

dave0
07-17-2006, 01:56 PM
there r 3 evils in this world religion, power and politics (no offence to any1 who's religious but i am totally against it) this is how it works: powerful politions use religion as an excuse to take over other countries and become more powerful. And war is useless to any1 with a self constionce.
i think this war isn't all about religion, after all it was started because 2 soldiers were kidnapped, but that also was started because religion hate, demonstrations of arab citizens are just... i don't know, they scream all the time: "we won't stop till we erase israel from earth", celebrations on kids killed, f*ckers :roll:

damon
07-17-2006, 02:16 PM
mmmm...... well i hope it just ends cos however it startd its stupid.

babelfish42
07-17-2006, 09:08 PM
i just heard on the news.. if they dont stop the bombing within like a month or somethin the UN are gonna step in and clear things out their way....
and they will stop bombing on the 26th day... i bet :roll:
they are pussies, just can attack un-armed citizens.....

who, the Israeli government or Hezbollah? there are a lot of parallels between the two. I think that people really need to calm down in the so-called "middle east" (or west asia as it should be called). I hope the UN does something decisive, as the vast majority of people that will suffer in this conflict will be the innocent civilian israelis, palestinians and lebanese.

punk_porcupine
07-17-2006, 09:54 PM
I just got back from Holland and found out about all this.

The Israeli military have a policy, like the Americans, to leave no man behind. As such they will go to any lengths to return the soldiers, bodies if nescesary, to home.

babelfish42
07-17-2006, 09:59 PM
but invading a country? geez.

rgy1993
07-18-2006, 02:27 AM
i still dont get it.. why do the arabs have to hate the palestinians soo much? i mean like.. why cant they make a ceasfire or somethin. i think the isreali's are saying they will agre to a ceasfire after the palestinians return the kidnapped soldier. but the stupid plaesatinians dont wont to with is up with that!!

emilydickinson
07-18-2006, 03:13 AM
I just got back from Holland and found out about all this.

The Israeli military have a policy, like the Americans, to leave no man behind. As such they will go to any lengths to return the soldiers, bodies if nescesary, to home.

I think they have a policy of way too many hopped up religous wackos on one way too small, way too hot, piece of worthless dessert. I've been to Israel, and also quite a few Muslim countries in the middle east, and eveeryone on both sides just needs to cool before they start wwIII, and wreck the good thing everybody else who isn't crazy has going on.

H4RDLander
07-18-2006, 03:14 AM
I just got back from Holland and found out about all this.

The Israeli military have a policy, like the Americans, to leave no man behind. As such they will go to any lengths to return the soldiers, bodies if nescesary, to home.


hey... ur the Member of the month.. :?

billytalentisshweet
07-18-2006, 08:18 AM
[quote=billytalentisshweet]Ha. Thats a sick joke and a half. Why do you think like that? Killing the 'g*y arabs' will only generate more hate and violence. That is no way to solve this problem.

This whole thing disturbs me. It shows what propaganda and ignorance can do to people. I wonder if they even know why they are fighting, and if they do why do they think it's ok to kill over land? Do we even know why they are fighting? Is ther even a reason? There are so many questions that I have but fell like they can't be awnsered because no-one knows the awnser, or that there is no good awnser.

Could this be the coming of the end?

"Think to yourself, if democracy is so good, then why are we running all over the world trying to shove it down peoples throats?"
nice contradiction there
if its so good why shoce it down ppls throats....ummm anwered ur own question just a bit, eh?

and these ppl DO kno why their fighting and so dont we, everyone on earth knows why, but some of u guys r just so uptight and nervous and shit about "propaganda" that EVERYTHING u see or hear about is propaganda to u
how bout just stfu, and live in the real world
i bet u think that this war is something the US government planned, huh?

I'm afraid that I am not the one living in a pretend world. I wish I was though, I wish I was wrong but unfortunaltely I, and many others who live in the real world are not wrong.

Did the U.S government plan this war? Hell no, I'd have to be dumb to think that, this war has been going on for much longer than the States have been around.

PhoenixBMX
07-18-2006, 09:11 AM
I think they have a policy of way too many hopped up religous wackos on one way too small, way too hot, piece of worthless dessert. I've been to Israel, and also quite a few Muslim countries in the middle east, and eveeryone on both sides just needs to cool before they start wwIII, and wreck the good thing everybody else who isn't crazy has going on.
:D
some bad shit has been done in the name of religon...

dave0
07-18-2006, 10:09 AM
well the point is, since we started to attack in order to return the soldiers, and destroy hizballa, they think its good for them, and instead releasing the soldiers, they fight back with hope that they will defeat us, and get israel to them.

fairtrade
07-18-2006, 10:47 AM
This war isn't too much to do with religion, or using religion as an excuse though. It's plain and simple. Side A want pile of desertland X. Side B also wants it. THerefore Side A fights Side B and one of them wins.

It's funny how George Bush already started bumsucking Israel within hours of the war starting.

emilydickinson
07-18-2006, 03:28 PM
The thing is, is Hizbollah is not the country of Lebanon, so it seems a little unfair to wreck the whole country for the acts of one political party. It would be akin to Russia bombing the US because they hate the Christian Right. For me this is really about the US and Iran. The US backs Israel to the tune of something like 20 billion a year, plus private aid and hardware. Iran (and to some degree Syria) fund Hizbollah. Really, it's the US and Iran in the backround of all this. Hizbollah was founded when na Lebanese mullah was tortured to death by IDF guys. Before he died he said, 'There is only one party, the party of g-d'. Maybe everyone there should take that to heart a little more. Wars are no good for anyone. It's macho bs and Israel needs to knock it off.