Your views in the war in Iraq

[5 dimes]

Share your views on the war in and terrorism.

I feel that the war in Iraq is Just stupid. Don't get me wrong I love and the soliders and everyone who is there but I feel that it is just a waste of young lives. The war in Iraq and "the war on terrorism" have not stoped terroist attacks at all. The real way to stop terrorism to to stop it at it's routes becauase there just to many terroist to kill. America should be going to the poor and poverished parts of Iraq to feed them and give them good educations. The reason that kids grow up to be terrosit is because thet are brain washed by the older members or terroist of their neighborhood and told that America is a bad country and they are evil, But if we teach otherwise I feel that they will atleast be "better than they are now. Because if we say we are gonna stop terrorism altogher in Iraq we would have to kill about 80% or Iraqs population.

[mtn]

i have nothing against american people etc but if you can't even help the people in your own country as a government, why try "helping" people in other countries? i just think you guys have a ****ed up government :)

[hazaabb13]

The war didnt help anything at all except the capture of saddam!! Burn in hell!!!

[Postman]

there are many things the public does not know (including me so dont say im just rambling on)..there are many things going down over there that the government wont talk about because it would jeopardise it. and you dont know that it didnt stop any attacks, for all you know people that were planning another 9/11 were killed or captured before tehy could carry it out. yes. i am for the war, i dont think we can just sit back and let people plot more attacks against innocent civilians that did nothing to these terrorists. if we let them attack us with no consequences it sends a message to every person in the world that they can do the same.

[xtimgx]

Refer to this article:
http://bmx-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27992

Anyways, its a tough call either way. I think getting yourself too wrapped up in the goverment's issues can really get to your head. These politics are very important but you also need to live your life and do the things you like. Remember all these soldiers that have died voluntarily signed the "X" knowing they could be called on for war for any reason. As sad as that is, it is the brutal truth whether or not the war is completely pointless. Unless of course we have a Draft, then there is a seriously big problem.--Timg

[xtimgx]

Also, terrorism will NEVER seize, that's just the blatant truth, there are always, always going to be groups/peoples hating or fighting for something "they" believe. That's just human nature.-Timg

[mtn]

i just think it sucks to see people who want to join the army because they think they will make a difference, i just don't see the point in dying for a cause that isn't yours

[babelfish42]

emmm last time I checked, it wasn't the Islamic Republic of Iraq that attacked the twin towers, blew up buses+trains in london etc, it was a bunch of religious extremists. Its like saying Timothy McVeigh was white, so we should invade America. Does the arrest of Saddam Hussein justify the thousands of innocent Iraqi dead? I dont think so. One man's life is not worth that of thousands. Religion is the real source of todays problems: i.e. Christian fundamentalists messing up schools by not allowing evolution to be taught; President G.W.Bitch, oops Bush; saying he was on a mission from god in Iraq etc; Islamic terrorists (thought they aren't real muslims, as it is a peaceful religion, very similar to christianity, and people who bomb stuff in its name are not true followers) and so on and so forth. If people didn't bring religion into things, the world might be a better place.

[soad]

the war on terrorism is working. the war in iraq sort of worked. saddam is out, but we are still in, there are still terrorist attacks there, but, its not iraqis, its insurgents(people from other countries). im sure most iraqis are happy america came and at least got rid of saddam, and are trying to set up a better gobernment, but im sure that they are also unhappy with other things, like the checkpoints and the fact that as long as we are there, the terrorist attacks wont stop. the way i see it is this: in order to rid iraq of terrorist attacks, we can either leave, invade neighboring countries, or stay there long rnough to train iraqis to where they are capable of sustaining a working gobernment, military, police force, and economy. until then, we are there to stay.

[mtn]

they can't even run a decent government themself, why try to help out other country's then? ok saddam wasn't a good person at all and it's good that he's out, but that doesn't mean that the war is justified, they could have just go kidnap the bastard, or kill him or something witouth starting a war, and don't say it's not that easy etc, like the cia and all those secret service's etc do everything by the book

[Blakc Ninja]

I'm American, and even I think thiswhole thing is dumb. This is how it went down from what I know. We sold the rebels weapons to rebel against their government about 5 years ago. When they abolished that governemt and the guys like sudam gained power, the rebels began using the very weapons we sold them for terrerism. Thats right my fellow americans, we sold the weapons of mass destruction. don't believe me? why else were we so sure that they had weapons of mass destruction? because we supplied them. Good job to us... Anyways, when the terrerist attacked us and it happened that they were afghans we decided to go to war with them. Thats retarted, how do you take an entire race of people and say that they are who you need to attack to handle terrorist. And how do you beat terrorist? You kill one and they become a martyr to the others. I personally think the main point of trying this whole thing is to get ahold of that oil. I may have been born in america and even live in it, but i don't embrace the title american.

[Blakc Ninja]

lol 2 more things:
America is sposed to be one of the strongest nations in the world. Why are we trying to fix a nation when we still have homeless roaming are streets and a large percentage of poor people?

Don't get it in your head that because we are fighting iraqi's and we are fighting against terrorism, then most iraqi's are terrorist.

[Flatline]

what the government needs to do is get all the american soldiers and all of the leaders and good people out of iraq and drop a hydrogen bomb on baghdad. Ever heard the song by Outkast BOB (Bombs over Baghdad)?

[5 dimes]

i just think it sucks to see people who want to join the army because they think they will make a difference, i just don't see the point in dying for a cause that isn't yours


I'm with you all the way..100% :clap:

[5 dimes]

emmm last time I checked, it wasn't the Islamic Republic of Iraq that attacked the twin towers, blew up buses+trains in london etc, it was a bunch of religious extremists. Its like saying Timothy McVeigh was white, so we should invade America. Does the arrest of Saddam Hussein justify the thousands of innocent Iraqi dead? I dont think so. One man's life is not worth that of thousands. Religion is the real source of todays problems: i.e. Christian fundamentalists messing up schools by not allowing evolution to be taught; President G.W.Bitch, oops Bush; saying he was on a mission from god in Iraq etc; Islamic terrorists (thought they aren't real muslims, as it is a peaceful religion, very similar to christianity, and people who bomb stuff in its name are not true followers) and so on and so forth. If people didn't bring religion into things, the world might be a better place.



I'm with you too :clap:

[5 dimes]

lol 2 more things:
America is sposed to be one of the strongest nations in the world. Why are we trying to fix a nation when we still have homeless roaming are streets and a large percentage of poor people?

Don't get it in your head that because we are fighting iraqi's and we are fighting against terrorism, then most iraqi's are terrorist.



I live 15 minutes away from washington D.C. Everwere you look in Washington D.C you see homeless people.

it does'nt make sense. You can spent billions of dollars and send thousands of soliders thousands of miles across the world to kill for the most part innocent people and get killed but you can't feed the homeless people in your front yard.

[emilydickinson]

I am a World Trade Center survivor - i was there. I think the US government either planned it or let it happen as an excuse to make war around the world. It's all a big game. I am 100% against war (but let it be said I really do respect soldiers as warriors in teh classic sense).

[soad]

I'm American, and even I think thiswhole thing is dumb. This is how it went down from what I know. We sold the rebels weapons to rebel against their government about 5 years ago. When they abolished that governemt and the guys like sudam gained power, the rebels began using the very weapons we sold them for terrerism. Thats right my fellow americans, we sold the weapons of mass destruction. don't believe me? why else were we so sure that they had weapons of mass destruction? because we supplied them. Good job to us... Anyways, when the terrerist attacked us and it happened that they were afghans we decided to go to war with them. Thats retarted, how do you take an entire race of people and say that they are who you need to attack to handle terrorist. And how do you beat terrorist? You kill one and they become a martyr to the others. I personally think the main point of trying this whole thing is to get ahold of that oil. I may have been born in america and even live in it, but i don't embrace the title american.

we went to war in afghanistan for osama, and we freed the afghans of the taliban, and started up a better government there. it worked, and that is pretty much what we are modeling iraq to be like, but something went wrong somewhere.

[Postman]

for a cause that isnt yours?! how is it not your cause when citizens of your country get killed from terrorist attacks?

[Semper]

saddam was a tyrant who used chemical shelling against ethnic minorities in his own country. he is a terrorist and a mass genocidal murderer. iraq went from a tryannical government to a democracy. sure its rough now, but in 10 years it will be better and a lot less people will have died in this war than if saddam still ruled it. id do more on this and why the war is good and all but im under the influence so yeah.




every terrorist our soldiers kill in iraq or afghanistan equals one less terrorist who would like to murder you innocent americans. or germans. or czehcoslavakians. or englanders. or belguimans. or frenchards. or anyone else in this forum who is in a free country, which the terrorists hate and want to destroy. which is pretty much everyone here.

EDITthing:// the american soldiers fighting there dont need or want your sympathy. thats what they signed up for. to protect peoples' freedom. most of the wounded that came back said they want to go back over and get back into the fight.

[blue devil]

I understand that some of you guys want to express you opinions on the war and thats good but cum on there a re soo many homless people in america because they have to want to help themselves, and noone ever said that america was a superpower without hobos the truth is every country in the world has homless and such :roll: the fact is america has less homless

You are a (lets say 25) year old afgan woman, you 2yr old son will die if you dont get him to a hospital soon (he has a simple fever but the regiem has set the 10:00 curfew and taken any medical supplies you once had) the streets are patroled by hussains royal gaurd and because you have somehow managed to live to the age of 25 you know that if you leave the house at any time without a male escort you are to be beaten raped or killed, what are you gonna do? get you husband? WRONG he is not home and you have no clue where he is, call a relative? WRONG the phones are only for menbers of the regiem, but your son is going to die if you dont do something soon so you decide to leave to the hospital (the hospital is only a coupple blocks away) but you only get a couple of feet with you 2yr old son before you are draged off by a member of the gaurd who throws you son aside (he dies) and begins to unzip his pants( he WILL rape you then kill you to so you cannot tell, as if anyone would listen anyway)


or how about this

its your 16th birthday wou are a smart atractive female afgan but the day after your birthday you are told you are to mary a 56yr old man and you WILL please him.....



this is not how womwn should have to live...

[5 dimes]

I am a World Trade Center survivor - i was there. I think the US government either planned it or let it happen as an excuse to make war around the world. It's all a big game. I am 100% against war (but let it be said I really do respect soldiers as warriors in teh classic sense).

omg it's like your stealing my thoughts. I feel that exact same way. Have you seen fairnheight 911?. I think the war is just a excuse to get Iraqs oil. Is'nt it strange how G.W. Bush owns a oil company And how Iraq is one the worlds highest oil producer And how Iraq is located tight next to the worlds largest oil producers and how the price of oil has just shot up because of the war

[5 dimes]

I understand that some of you guys want to express you opinions on the war and thats good but cum on there a re soo many homless people in america because they have to want to help themselves, and noone ever said that america was a superpower without hobos the truth is every country in the world has homless and such :roll: the fact is america has less homless

You are a (lets say 25) year old afgan woman, you 2yr old son will die if you dont get him to a hospital soon (he has a simple fever but the regiem has set the 10:00 curfew and taken any medical supplies you once had) the streets are patroled by hussains royal gaurd and because you have somehow managed to live to the age of 25 you know that if you leave the house at any time without a male escort you are to be beaten raped or killed, what are you gonna do? get you husband? WRONG he is not home and you have no clue where he is, call a relative? WRONG the phones are only for menbers of the regiem, but your son is going to die if you dont do something soon so you decide to leave to the hospital (the hospital is only a coupple blocks away) but you only get a couple of feet with you 2yr old son before you are draged off by a member of the gaurd who throws you son aside (he dies) and begins to unzip his pants( he WILL rape you then kill you to so you cannot tell, as if anyone would listen anyway)


or how about this

its your 16th birthday wou are a smart atractive female afgan but the day after your birthday you are told you are to mary a 56yr old man and you WILL please him.....



this is not how womwn should have to live...





I agree with the second paragraph down

[blue devil]

The sad truth is that this is only a small description of what went on there before the war (granted it hasent all stoped were on the right track)

[t1_ridder]

Share your views on the war in and terrorism.

I feel that the war in Iraq is Just stupid. Don't get me wrong I love and the soliders and everyone who is there but I feel that it is just a waste of young lives. The war in Iraq and "the war on terrorism" have not stoped terroist attacks at all. The real way to stop terrorism to to stop it at it's routes becauase there just to many terroist to kill. America should be going to the poor and poverished parts of Iraq to feed them and give them good educations. The reason that kids grow up to be terrosit is because thet are brain washed by the older members or terroist of their neighborhood and told that America is a bad country and they are evil, But if we teach otherwise I feel that they will atleast be "better than they are now. Because if we say we are gonna stop terrorism altogher in Iraq we would have to kill about 80% or Iraqs population.


i think that just about sums it up

[bruisedbob]

emmm last time I checked, it wasn't the Islamic Republic of Iraq that attacked the twin towers, blew up buses+trains in london etc, it was a bunch of religious extremists. Its like saying Timothy McVeigh was white, so we should invade America. Does the arrest of Saddam Hussein justify the thousands of innocent Iraqi dead? I dont think so. One man's life is not worth that of thousands. Religion is the real source of todays problems: i.e. Christian fundamentalists messing up schools by not allowing evolution to be taught; President G.W.Bitch, oops Bush; saying he was on a mission from god in Iraq etc; Islamic terrorists (thought they aren't real muslims, as it is a peaceful religion, very similar to christianity, and people who bomb stuff in its name are not true followers) and so on and so forth. If people didn't bring religion into things, the world might be a better place.

You beautiful Scot bastard. You get it, so why can't people over here grasp this? Because most americans are led around by special interests and ignorance.

[mtn]

for a cause that isnt yours?! how is it not your cause when citizens of your country get killed from terrorist attacks?

thousands of citizens of your own country get killed by your own government, i don't see you fighting them...

[Zero Cool]

lol 2 more things:
America is sposed to be one of the strongest nations in the world. Why are we trying to fix a nation when we still have homeless roaming are streets and a large percentage of poor people?

Don't get it in your head that because we are fighting iraqi's and we are fighting against terrorism, then most iraqi's are terrorist.good question. ya and theres about 40 million people in the usa with out medical insurance and we have our face over in the middle east. hmm... lets solve our problems here in the usa first not other country's problems

[Blakc Ninja]

Maybe im just a big conspiracy people but heres my thought.

They say we have satelites that can examine a pimple on your @$$. We have all thes security measures that a sposed to stop plane hijacking, such as locked ****pit doors. How did they get it open? There are at least 100 people on those kind of planes. If you saw a guy with a razor blade or something trying to crash a plane you were in would you just sit there? Even if there were 20 terrorist on one of those planes that still leaves 80 other people. If one stood up to fight others would too. Airports moniter a planes flight path from one port to the other. When it even strays a little bit off course they have certain measures they are requiered to make. When it flew of course and below the altitude allowed outside of airport space, why didn't they say anything? The whole thing shouldn't be a shocker, we should have known as soon as they left course. Unless it was supposed to happen that way.

[SiNEjde]

First off I am absolutely appauled that some of you would suggest genocide in this situation, come on man how ridiculous can we get. You rank no better than Pol Pot, Stalin, and Hitler and I honestly have no respect for you after that comment.

As far as injustices of the sexual kind, I am well aware that there are some outrageous sexual indifferences in arab countries.. but to say we should INVADE their countries because of it is ridiculous. Someone obviously hasn't payed attention in their history classes, you can NOT go into a country and FORCE them to abide by your customs, it just DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT.. that is a major reason so many 'radicals' exist in iraq at the moment. We are blatantly trying to socially and politically reform their country, and it will not work.

the connection between iraq and terrorism is rather mistaken to. 9/11 and iraq have little to NO connection whatsoever, and some may say BUT LOOK AT THE RADICALS ON TV THEY ARE KILLING OUR TROOPS RUTHLESSLY... uuuh DUH thats what YOU would do TOO. come on let's put it into perspective.. lets say we are chilling here, in our comfy little abodes of america.. and canada comes down and decides to take our country over and convert it to a communist tyranny. they blow up our buildings, cities, capture our leader, and let us live in a loosely bound slum while they live in luxury and have their soldiers patrol our streets.. there is 5 americans to every soldier.. you are telling me you wouldnt fight back?

[Semper]

I am a World Trade Center survivor - i was there. I think the US government either planned it or let it happen as an excuse to make war around the world. It's all a big game. I am 100% against war (but let it be said I really do respect soldiers as warriors in teh classic sense).

omg it's like your stealing my thoughts. I feel that exact same way. Have you seen fairnheight 911?. I think the war is just a excuse to get Iraqs oil. Is'nt it strange how G.W. Bush owns a oil company And how Iraq is one the worlds highest oil producer And how Iraq is located tight next to the worlds largest oil producers and how the price of oil has just shot up because of the war

youre a dumb face! the oil prices shot up recently because of the hurricane destroying most of america's oil production, which was in the gulf coast. and here we have another dolt ranting on about the "war for oil"... do you seriously think we would invade a pathetic excuse for a country such as iraq for oil? it would have been a hundredfold cheaper to buy oil from iraq for 100 years than to launch a full-scale military invasion...

[Diluted_Acid]

America is such a messed up place, not the people (i think its dumb of foreign people to just point the finger at Americans), and i can only hope George Bush loses next election for the benefit of you guys, i can't stand seeing him scaring Americans into preparing for war.

[SiNEjde]

uhm.. how isnt the american population to blame? if you want to get technical about it WE DID VOTE BUSH IN TWICE... i think america needs a social reform... badly.. the way we think is just ****ed up.. period

[soad]

uhm.. how isnt the american population to blame? if you want to get technical about it WE DID VOTE BUSH IN TWICE... i think america needs a social reform... badly.. the way we think is just f*ck up.. period

coming from the guy with the russian star and symbol...

[SiNEjde]

they are symbols of communism, not russia.. russia adopted them BECAUSE they were "communist" but any self respected communist realizes that stalin hardly practiced communism, but away from the point. I do in fact have a major problem with capatalism, due to the injustices it produces and ridiculous things that happen. We have children starving in Africa while our supermodels are CHOOSING not to eat for their 4 million a year. Not to mention it is hypocritical to have a government that says "everyone is granted equal rights" when it is in fact a capitalist nation. And also if you know anything about Marxism, there is a very distinct point in Marx's plan which is the reform, or revolution so yea.. why wouldn't I say I want a social reform?

[bruisedbob]

they are symbols of communism, not russia.. russia adopted them BECAUSE they were "communist" but any self respected communist realizes that stalin hardly practiced communism, but away from the point. I do in fact have a major problem with capatalism, due to the injustices it produces and ridiculous things that happen. We have children starving in Africa while our supermodels are CHOOSING not to eat for their 4 million a year. Not to mention it is hypocritical to have a government that says "everyone is granted equal rights" when it is in fact a capitalist nation. And also if you know anything about Marxism, there is a very distinct point in Marx's plan which is the reform, or revolution so yea.. why wouldn't I say I want a social reform?

Another hundred years and we'll get it down. Or we'll cover the Earth in fire.

[Charles]

YAY!

[SiNEjde]

yea.. ok. at americas pace? mmmhmm.. the constitution was written in 1776 and put into action in what.. 1787.. and every man was stated to be equal or at least have equal opporotunity, and that promise STILL hasnt been accomplished to this day.

[bruisedbob]

yea.. ok. at americas pace? mmmhmm.. the constitution was written in 1776 and put into action in what.. 1787.. and every man was stated to be equal or at least have equal opporotunity, and that promise STILL hasnt been accomplished to this day.

I was just throwing out a number, but yeah it's going to be a while. Too many morons in control over here.

[mtn]

yea.. ok. at americas pace? mmmhmm.. the constitution was written in 1776 and put into action in what.. 1787.. and every man was stated to be equal or at least have equal opporotunity, and that promise STILL hasnt been accomplished to this day.

I was just throwing out a number, but yeah it's going to be a while. Too many morons in control over here.

morons are in control everywhere, it's not just an american problem... :)

[Zero Cool]

morons are in control everywhere, it's not just an american problem... :)hahaha i agree 100%

edit: oops wrong quote i forgot who said what...

[Semper]

but if you were in control you'd be considered a moron too... politicians can't make everyone happy.

but yeah, are you saying your a commy? and what the hell does supermodels not eating have to do with politics? i suppose you'll tell me that foreign or communist supermodels eat a lot and are therefore better than americans?

[mtn]

but if you were in control you'd be considered a moron too... politicians can't make everyone happy.

but yeah, are you saying your a commy? and what the hell does supermodels not eating have to do with politics? i suppose you'll tell me that foreign or communist supermodels eat a lot and are therefore better than americans?

i wouldn't want to be in control, but there are people who want to be in control to do good things, but they don't get the chance because of the assholes who have the power allready, and what's the problem if i would be a communist? i don't see what every "normal" american has against communists...

[soad]

sigh, when was the last time a black man applied for a job and was turned down because he was black? when was the last time someone couldnt register to vote because he is a she, minority, or a non-landowner? yea, i thought so. EQUAL RIGHTS IN ACTION! read the amendments and find something that says someone is not equal from another. you wont find it, because it isnt there. learn your facts, then open your ****hole.

[soad]

the whole children starving in africa thing is ridiculous. look at the countries that they are in, look at their non-existant government, look at all the UN aid that is being handed to them, then look at all the UN peacekeepers being shot at. then look at whos problem it is that they are starving.

[blue devil]

Ok this goes out to all you commies,and or just plain idiotic tards if you dont like america being in iraq GO THE FU@K OVER THERE AND FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE!!! dont sit around on you comp. and complain :roll: dont TELL me that america is sh#t cuz bottom line is its NOT and if you are stupid enough to live here and complain than i would have been refering to you when i said IDIOTIC TARD!!! its people like you who arnt supporting our soldiers over there, and dont tell me you are cuz all of you (you know who im talking to) have said something against them by saying that america is stupid,
I live, breath, and will die for my country NOT for idiots like you who cant tell your own a$$ hole frome a hole in the ground but for the people that lost loved ones in 9-11 for the loved ones lost and the heros who risked there lives past present and future, because im proud to be an american and im proud that im going to be a marine and all you tards who want to bash on america can sit and twirl cuz the fact is that all of the people on this site who have heard your stupid excuses for comunisim, race, religon, oil ect.. american or not im sure that they are sick of your usless ranting america IS a land of freedom it IS a super power and terrorist are way in the wrong just like hitler,stalin and all the rest so some one lock this topic cuz this WILL continue to go back and forth

but rember what i said go over there if you dont like it!

[lyricaldrewl]

The purpose of war is not to combat terrorism or any other ism. It is a means of appropriating territory and/or power. Why stop in the Middle east. Campaign until the world's end and we are at last one great nation. Then who will we fight?

[lyricaldrewl]

Ok this goes out to all you commies,and or just plain idiotic tards if you dont like america being in iraq GO THE FU+at+K OVER THERE AND FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE!!! dont sit around on you comp. and complain :roll: dont TELL me that america is sh#t cuz bottom line is its NOT and if you are stupid enough to live here and complain than i would have been refering to you when i said IDIOTIC TARD!!! its people like you who arnt supporting our soldiers over there, and dont tell me you are cuz all of you (you know who im talking to) have said something against them by saying that america is stupid,
I live, breath, and will die for my country NOT for idiots like you who cant tell your own a$$ hole frome a hole in the ground but for the people that lost loved ones in 9-11 for the loved ones lost and the heros who risked there lives past present and future, because im proud to be an american and im proud that im going to be a marine and all you tards who want to bash on america can sit and twirl cuz the fact is that all of the people on this site who have heard your stupid excuses for comunisim, race, religon, oil ect.. american or not im sure that they are sick of your usless ranting america IS a land of freedom it IS a super power and terrorist are way in the wrong just like hitler,stalin and all the rest so some one lock this topic cuz this WILL continue to go back and forth

but rember what i said go over there if you dont like it!


**** You

[soad]

The purpose of war is not to combat terrorism or any other ism. It is a means of appropriating territory and/or power. Why stop in the Middle east. Campaign until the world's end and we are at last one great nation. Then who will we fight?

dirkie durrrr.........same people we fighting now, terrorists!

[lyricaldrewl]

How do you define terrorist? An individual and/or group of individuals who inspire fear upon others? That could be construed upon any specific individual on the face of the earth at one time or another. "Terrorists" actually practice a highly evolved form of guerilla warfare. Who is right and who is wrong is most often only decided by the individual/group who is on the victorious side. That is the reason Americans are so righteous. We are always on the winning side. Tactically the "terrorist" bombings on the twin towers were the single most brilliantly executed millitary campaign in the history of man. Thousand of American casualties with only the sacrifice of less than ten Taliban casualties.