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emilydickinson
04-05-2005, 02:23 AM
I first became curious about the Odyssey Elementary stem when I noticed that all the pictures of George French's bike on the G-Sport website had the stem blacked out. What stem could be so unique that it has do be blacked out for intellectual property and security reasons? I had seen pictures of the earlier G-Sport Nimrod stem, and it seemed like a great stem, but I had never seen one in person, so I can't comment on it. However, the design seemed good in practice. Fast forward to the current time. Since I first read about the Elementary stem, designed by George French and produced by Odyssey, I was very excited. Once I saw pictures of it, and read about the one bolt compression wedge system, I knew it was something special. New BMX parts seem to appear on a weekly basis, but for the most part they are clones, or slight refinments of existing designs. There is very little innovation in the engineering department in the world of BMX. Part design is driven by trends, not improvemement. The Elementary stem is a true innovation: it does the job of a traditional stem in a simpler, more efficient, more elegant way, while managing to weigh much less. That is an innovation.

'Simplicity is the hallmark of good engineering'. You hear this again and again in engineering school. The best designs are the simplest: they have the fewest parts, so they have the fewest reasons to fail. The Elementary stem uses a one bolt system which drives two compression wedges to hold the bars and the steering tube snug at the same time. Instead of having 6-8 bolts to tighten, there is one. When this bolt is tightened, the compression wedges move outwards and provide the clamping force in two places. That's a simple elegant design, and in theory provides more clamping power than is possible with a standard stem, where the friction on the bolt threads provides all the clamping force. Using a frame and wedges eliminates all the excess metal in traditional stem designs, creating a huge weight savings. I'm not a weight geek, but if I can run a stem that weighs 230 grams and has superior clamping power, I'm into that. The weight savings is right at the bars, making the front end lighter and providing more pop, so saving weight at that place on a BMX is also good. At this point, I'll also admit my own prejudices. I'm a mechanical engineer, just like G.F., so I feel better knowing a rider who knows his basics designed this, and not some hipster who's more concerned with looks than performance.

Here's the stem, and it's fancy packaging.




Here's the stem dissasembled so you can get a good look at the guts. On the right is the U-Frame, the main body of the stem. The top two pieces are the spacers which hold the steerer tube and bars taught against the compression wedges. On the bottom are the two compression wedges, threaded together with an 8mm bolt, washer and mating nut, which sit flush in the wedges.






Installing the Elementary Stem

Installing the Elementary stem may seem difficult at first, but that's only because it's done completely different than installing a traditional stem. In many ways it is comparable to the scene in 'Jane Eyre' where Mr. Rochester dresses up as a gypsy. Seemingly bizarre, but in the end it only ends up being something good. Let's gather our tools for the installation. You'll need ann engineer's scale (a ruler, or a tape measure will also suffice), a 9/16's socket for the compression bolt in your headset, an 8mm hex key (thoughtfully supplied by Ody with the stem) and grease, That's it. Personally, I love Phil Wood grease. Yes, it's expensive, but you have to admit there is something clean about it, and it does last forever.




The first thing we need to do is measure out steere tube. Take your scale and place it at the top of the headset where the steerer tube exits. Measure from there to the top of the steerer tube. Ody reccomends your steerer tube to be at least 36mm. Mine was 40mm, and I would bet most people who aren't weight retards who cut there steerer tubes to lose 5 grams will be fine. Cut your steerer tube too short? Sorry, you're shit out of luck. I've warned you to not cut things off your bike, you might need them later.



Now that we've checked our steere tube, and see that it is of sufficient length, we can get to work. Take some grease and grease the isnside of the U-Frame where it will contact the steerer tube.



Now take your bars, and slide them into the U-Frame of the stem. This may require a bit of force, which is fine. Just shove them into the front of the U-Frame. Put your back into it.



With the bars secureley in the frame, place the circular opening in the U-Frame over the steerer tube, and push it down until it is flush with the top of the headset. I needed to remove a spacer to make this happen.





Once the frame is sitting flush on the steerer tube, insert the the wedge with the flat plane into the front of the tube facing the handlebars.





Now, insert the second wedge with the more pronounced curved depression into the side of the U-Frame facing the steerer tube. It should rest snugly against the steerer tube.



With both wedges tucked into place, it's time for the compression bolt, the linch pin of the whole stem. Grease is more than an amazing movie with Stockard Channing and John Travolta-grease the vertical planes (up and down) of the compression wedges. Then slide the bolt and nut side of the wedges into the U-Frame between the two spacers.









Place the wedges so that sit evenly in the frame, and are flush inside it. I they stick out, it will be a bitch to fix it later.

With the bars, frame, spacers and wedges in place, place your bars in the correct position. I reccomend that your bars are parellel with the the axel nuts on your front fork. See this pic.




With the bars in place, stand over your bike and align the stem and the bars so they are perfectly straight.



Now, take your 9/16 socket, and tighten down the compression bolt until it is very snug (don't worry that spacer will give you some wiggle room).



With the compression , bolt snug, take the 8mm allen key and begin tightening the bolt in the compression wedges. Be careful here. All the rumors about people crushing there bars with this stem are tru - it has that much clamping power. Tighten about three turns withe allen key, then go in quarter turn increments until it is snug. Ody suggests a tork taing of 18-25 N-m. Most people don't have torqe wrenches, so go slow, and as soon as you can't move the bars, stop tightening.



All pieces of the compression wedges should be inside the U-Frame when you are done tighetning the bolt.



The bolt should be flush with the U-Frame.



Here's a shot with the stem fully tightened,



Looks cool, eh?


With your stem fully installed, go for a ride. I immediately noticed the weight difference in my front end. It actually feels lighter, and my bike has more pop. I've had this stem for about three months, and there has been no bar slippage at all. It rocks. People are cutting there axels to save weight, but this stem will save a lot mor weight while working better han heavier stems on the market. The Elemenatery stem is the most innovative product for BMX that we've seen in a while. Lighter weight, better clamping power, and a simpler mechanical design all make this the best part to come along in years. Get one - it rocks. And as usual, I know what is best for everyone. - Emily Dickinson

Street Cowboy
04-05-2005, 02:36 AM
great review. i heard from one person the aluminum they make it out of is pretty cheap. what are your thoughts. it looks from thoes pictures you can see a bit of a grain in the metal. how smooth is the machining?

oh and i thought you had a chris king headset?

emilydickinson
04-05-2005, 02:52 AM
I haven't bothered to pull the King out of my last frame, I'm lazy. Yes, you can see the grain in teh aluminum, but it seems well machined to me. Only more time will tell.

Ebah4290
04-05-2005, 04:11 AM
I went out and looked at my Elementary and it look like they might have just brushed it for apperence

Dakwota
04-05-2005, 12:19 PM
Nice How-To.

I LOVE YOUR BIKE!

PrimeTime
04-05-2005, 02:31 PM
Emily your amazing man

ozz
04-05-2005, 03:17 PM
if i ever buy a new stem that will be the one i get.

booboo49
04-07-2005, 10:22 PM
if i ever buy a new stem that will be the one i get.

TheOrigionalMetalPaw
04-07-2005, 11:38 PM
if i ever buy a new stem that will be the one i get.

Jezie R.
04-08-2005, 06:41 AM
great review. i heard from one person the aluminum they make it out of is pretty cheap. what are your thoughts. it looks from thoes pictures you can see a bit of a grain in the metal. how smooth is the machining?

oh and i thought you had a chris king headset?

They use 2014 T6 aluminum alloy a little bit more expensive than 6061 t6 (on the regular stems) and a little bit cheaper than 7075 t6.

Um what grain? My connection is dead slow so I can't see the rest of the pics. The stem I bought only has regular machining marks at the 'cut outs' which is normal...

redbone
04-08-2005, 07:40 AM
emily, why did you grease the part between stem and steerer?
I can't wait to get my elementary..

Eggit
04-10-2005, 10:20 PM
(I finaly come back to post... Might be posting more often as my life is not so crazy anymore, and I also have streetcowboy to thank because I ran into him on MSN [= )

Anyways on with the post, my main concern when looking at this stem, or the new S&M stem or any stem where compression wedges are used to clamp the bars and the steer tube on at the same time is how hard is it is to adjust the bars and get the stem straight without either moving on you? (wow run on sentence)

emilydickinson
04-11-2005, 03:42 PM
Doing the final adjustment is pretty simple, because after you turn the hex to compress the wedges, there is enough tension to hold the bars while you put them exactly in place. It was really simple to get the bars and steerer where they felt good. The tension gets exponentially stronger, so a tiny turn is all you need to keep the bars stiff enoughfor tightening.

redbone
04-11-2005, 07:20 PM
emily, why did you grease the part between stem and steerer?

emilydickinson
04-12-2005, 04:29 AM
emily, why did you grease the part between stem and steerer?


So that it would be easier to put it on the steerer tube without a hammer.

rocket
04-12-2005, 05:50 PM
wow...this review is like reviewing a review. Very good emily! I hadnt read it untill today but just looking at it i knew it was gonna be way detailed. I really didnt think too much of this stem from being skeptical about its 'wedging' strength and lack of material but this review kinda gives me second thoughts. It seems to be stonger than i anticipated. I also didnt care about its weight because having too much a light front end in some cases can be a bad thing.
With people running "race" forks, light bars, and integrated headsets- all the weight is getting shed from the front while the back stays heavy and that starts to throw things off balance.
Im not sure id want my front any lighter with having Pro Dirt forks, 14mm/HazzLite, S&M lite stem, and Tank headset but if i do, i just might try the Elemtary.

Smudge
04-22-2005, 01:00 PM
icerocket remember the front (from seattube) is longer than the back giving it more leverage. But yea i know what you mean i know the feeling.

Worcester Joe
05-23-2005, 07:02 PM
Mr hardman wanted a downside reviews. so here goes:
I twisted this stem at the weekend. This twist has pulled the bars down to the right hand side and caused my headset to not run straight. admittidly this was caused by flying over a 8 foot back rail, but still wouldn't of happened with a regualr stem.

Great if your easy and smooth. Not so good if your not.
No other problems. the stem never slipped, and was extremly light.

Eggit
05-23-2005, 07:31 PM
You mean that the stem actualy twisted? like now your bars sit with a lean to one side. Thats bad....

Anyways how is the flex on this thing? it looks like it would flex alot.

Worcester Joe
05-23-2005, 07:55 PM
yup.

Theres little to no flex with the stem.

shOo
05-23-2005, 09:04 PM
thats sad... but thanks for telling.. I think i'll wait until next new, lite/strong stem appears :wink:

MCHardmanUK
05-23-2005, 10:01 PM
thats sad... but thanks for telling.. I think i'll wait until next new, lite/strong stem appears :wink:

Theres always the Profile Hip stem.

I was going to buy it but Im considering the Oddy Elemtary with Milk bars. I like to have very narrow bars as I have short arms.

nutsgeezer
05-23-2005, 10:34 PM
Ive heard the profile hips is crap.

Eggit
05-24-2005, 12:12 AM
I just took a look at the prototype s&m stem www.sandmbikes.com it looks kinda nice, seems ot ahve more material than the elementary. It is also supposed to weight around 7 ounces.

Jezie R.
05-26-2005, 07:29 PM
Mr hardman wanted a downside reviews. so here goes:
I twisted this stem at the weekend. This twist has pulled the bars down to the right hand side and caused my headset to not run straight. admittidly this was caused by flying over a 8 foot back rail, but still wouldn't of happened with a regualr stem.

Great if your easy and smooth. Not so good if your not.
No other problems. the stem never slipped, and was extremly light.

Interesting... Can I see a picture of this twisted Elementary stem ?

Worcester Joe
05-26-2005, 10:35 PM
i'll take one. i think it wil be hard to tell from a picture, but lookin at it in person you can tell it is.

Eggit
05-27-2005, 01:33 AM
You might be able to take it off (assuming you are still running it) and lay it on a flat surface like a table. Then in the pic we might be able to see the twist.

Jezie R.
05-28-2005, 03:47 PM
i'll take one. i think it wil be hard to tell from a picture, but lookin at it in person you can tell it is.

:roll:

Worcester Joe
05-28-2005, 11:52 PM
what are you rolling ur emoticon eyes at?
2morro night i will have a pic
if you dont believe me, PM bingblackskeeb. hes seen it...

Chris
05-29-2005, 12:03 AM
Its true i have seen it.

bingblackskeeb
05-29-2005, 01:10 AM
RAR! i am bingblackskeeb fear me as i will pooo on ur pillow! rite then mr.rolling ur cyber emotion eyes....why wud he lie about it? what wud be the point....it is true i have seen it...so just watch it...u cud make joe cry...and he is such a nice guy why wud u want to do that? why do u want that on ur mind? huh?Huh?
WHY?

Jezie R.
05-29-2005, 08:08 PM
ok.

high life
06-17-2005, 12:20 PM
Would the Knight Bike Co. Watson Wedgie help to prevent any twisting of the stem at all? It looks a shitload better and I doubt it would add much weight.

http://www.knightbikeco.com/productsstemhardware.htm

nutsgeezer
06-17-2005, 01:09 PM
I think it looks much better with that

oldstreetthrasher
06-17-2005, 09:21 PM
Me too.. maybe i'll get one when I get their ti bolt and nut for mine.

Eggit
06-17-2005, 09:43 PM
I would bet the watson wedge woudl atleast an ounce, in wich case you might as wlel be buying a redneck XLT, wich going by looks, looks ALOT stronger. There just is not much material to the elementary, liek i said before most of the weight is in the wedges and that is just scary.

b8m1x9
06-18-2005, 04:32 AM
I would bet the watson wedge woudl atleast an ounce, in wich case you might as wlel be buying a redneck XLT, wich going by looks, looks ALOT stronger. There just is not much material to the elementary, liek i said before most of the weight is in the wedges and that is just scary. yeah, but on most stems are really only held together by four steel bolts,

Eggit
06-19-2005, 10:18 PM
Well joe's twisted, you know hwy it twisted? Look at the "meat" of the stem, the area right between the bars and steer tube, without the wedges it is hollow. A regular stem you ahve a nice solid chunk of metal, or atleast closer to being solid. How it is bolted on really has nothing to do with anything.

DanYul2k6
02-16-2006, 03:48 PM
ED, you know you mentioned the bolt being flush with the u frame, wat happens when the bolt going through the wedges and stuff enters the other side and is showing, on mine when i tightened it all up, i had about 3/4 of a cm of the bolt showing? what must i do, loosen it a bit, or leave it

emilydickinson
02-17-2006, 01:32 AM
It's OK if it's showing that much as long as you make sure the wedges are centered, that's what's important.

DanYul2k6
02-17-2006, 11:49 AM
yeh its all centered and stuff, maybe im doing it too tight, would cutting the bolt down be a bad thing, not that im gonig to, if anything il leave it with the bolt just hanging out a bit, ?

fairtrade
02-17-2006, 11:53 AM
Cut it down by all means. Make sure you haven't crushed your bars.

DanYul2k6
02-17-2006, 12:08 PM
nah my bars are fine, i might just leave it or something, see how i get on with it

bMx_vinc3
02-18-2006, 12:27 AM
awesome review! Thanks.

MCHardmanUK
03-01-2006, 01:15 PM
Id like to add my love for this stem, not only is it light, it looks good, its not got any sharps bits to impail myslef on in a crash and it works better than anything else Ive tried.

Ive had a few niles with creakingbars but all is fine, its stayed put and is the easiest thing in the word to set up. Adjustng bars and stem is not a problem.

Overral it has served me well.

float
09-02-2006, 09:32 AM
sounds goood ...

diablo90
09-02-2006, 12:40 PM
sounds goood ...

dam ...:eek: tht was ****in cool i wanna buy it now but im not ganna buy it untill i know how to do more tricks :)

fairtrade
09-02-2006, 01:17 PM
dam ...:eek: tht was ****in cool i wanna buy it now but im not ganna buy it untill i know how to do more tricks :)

Buy it when your current stem breaks/strips out, problem solved.

HeaTreatedGoodness
09-02-2006, 03:14 PM
VERY good review Emily. Personally I didn't like the stem, and I just switched to a series 3 that weighs a bit more but i love so far. People are pretty split on the elementary I guess.

hazaabb13
09-02-2006, 03:20 PM
The fit s3 is a death trap, i have said it and will say it again, The s3 stem is the grim reaper of stems.