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danot2serious1
11-28-2004, 03:43 AM
Well as promised, I will be writing my article on setting up a gyro. I am going to start by posting pictures and eventually full descriptions and instuctions. Be patient, it may take a while...

Alright, my camera was low on batteries and acted a little strange. so I attempted to touch them up a bit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/1mygyro.jpg
Well, the picture may not be the greatest but it's an example of a gyro.
http://a1072.g.akamai.net/f/1072/2062/1d/gallery.rei.com/media/634904Lrg.jpg
If you feel a lot of resistance in your cables, I suggest you get this stuff. It's a wet lubricant.. I use it on all my cables and my chain. It is semi water resistant and holds up very well.. Great stuff. 4 dollars for a 4oz bottle. Makes your cables like butta.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z0levrsingspltdul.jpg
My gyro goes: Lever-single-dual splitter, dual cables split into single, straddle cable-brake arms. Now, there is a much simpler way of running your cables: dual cable lever, dual bottom cable-londonmod-brake arms. If your frame has cable tabs for dual lowers, you don't need a london mod.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z1remfrntbrkcbl.jpg
1- If you have a front brake, detach it from the brake arm and pull it out of the tensioning bolt on the top of your stem.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z2remtensnblt.jpg
2- Unscrew tensioning bolt on top of your stem.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z3tensnbltoff.jpg
Should look something like this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z4remstmbolts.jpg
3- On the side of your stem there are bolts, your stem bolts. Loosen them enough to take your bars and stem off. Generally you will need a 6mm allen wrench.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z5mgtaswelclnngrse.jpg
Well, while you have open access to your headset (if you have an unsealed one) you might as well clean and regrease your headset bearings if it is needed...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z6barladjstr.jpg
If you bike has cable guides/tabs this is where your london mod,single barrel adjuster, or dual lowers would go.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z7gyrotabsin.jpg
7- Well, if you don't have welded on gyro tabs, or don't have a lower gyro plate in, you will have to put one on. To do this you will have to remove your top headset cup. Once it's off, slide/pound/jimmy the plate on. Try to get it as staight as you can. Put your top headset cup back on. Again, if your headset bearings need a clean and regrease, might as well do it now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z7h.jpgfront view of tabs and headset in.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z8duals.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/zAbrlsin.jpg
8- Take your lower dual cables and screw the barrel adjusters into the tabs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z9A.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/z9rotoron.jpg
9- Now, take the gyro and just put it on, just like the picture, smallest tabs on the bottom, so thet they match up with the lower plates' tabs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/zBtopplateon.jpg
10-Take the top gyro plate and put in on. If you've done everything right so far, the top plate tabs should match up with the gyro's top tabs. When you put the top plate on, make sure to put it deep part down. You might need to put a spacer on top of the plate to have clearance for the top dual cables so they don't touch the stem

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v129/danot2serious1/zCstmonbrlsin.jpg
11-Now put your bars/stem back on. Screw in your top dual cables and bolt everything down. Your probably fustrated with the headset jingle. To not get ANY headset movement, you first need to tighten the fork tensioning bolt down so that the stem barley moves when pushed. When you tighten the tensioning bolt, push/pull up on the bars so that the stem goes all the way down. Make sure the bearings in you headset are properley seated. You fork race better be holding the lower bearing right. Tighten the stem bolt. Keep pushing up and tightening the bolt till you have NO travel. Now, straighten out the bars and compare with the front tire, make sure everything is straight. Tighten the stem bolts. Firts bolt, second bolt, first bolt, second bolt, first bolt, second bolt. Do this till it is nice an tight.


If you are having trouble dialing your gyro, ask me for some help. This article was just for putting gyros on but if you need some more help i'd kindly oblige...

nutsgeezer
11-28-2004, 02:37 PM
article?

stolen_rider
11-28-2004, 03:40 PM
like he said at the top hes gonna build it up and add writing over time

nutsgeezer
11-28-2004, 04:13 PM
I think Im going blind.

stolen_rider
11-28-2004, 06:59 PM
eh, you better give me your moderator job then :P

Wynex
11-28-2004, 08:12 PM
I'll clean this up when the article gets posted

reyesjr02
11-28-2004, 08:12 PM
cant wait for the article....

danot2serious1
11-28-2004, 11:58 PM
It's done. It needs a lot of tweaking though.

Street Cowboy
11-29-2004, 07:27 AM
mmmm lime sented finishline .. i live by the stuff.. oh and the coconut scented wax they do. mmmm nice to see someone cares about their bike enugh not to use wd40

Louis K
11-29-2004, 09:48 PM
Yeah i'm about to order some white lightening and finishline lube. what other maintence stuff should I order for my bike? I have $31 to spend alltogether :)

Also danot2serious1 (is their anything else you would like me to call you?) Great article!!

danot2serious1
11-29-2004, 09:54 PM
Yeah, you can call me Stef. If you don't have a good set of metric allen wrenches, Park Tools makes a great set. The handheld larger set comes with 3,4,5,6,8, and 10mm wrenches (AWS-11). Strong little tool that'll last you a while. You can see it in some of the pics. I got mine for a little over 13 dollars at a LBS. Nothing worse than using imperial allen wrenches in metric holes...
http://www.danscomp.com/products/TOOLSPARK/811349.jpg

Buy a nice, hard bristled toothbrush also. Helps a lot when cleaning unsealed headset bearings and little nooks and crannies. I you are going to be working with a lot of greases, you should also buy Greased Lightining. It comes in a purple bottle for about 4 bucks at wal-mart. You dilute it. Great stuff. When you use it on bearings, dilute it some, use that toothbrush and rinse the stuff off. Make sure it's all gone. You don't want that shit in your bearings.

Louis K
11-29-2004, 09:58 PM
Okay stef you can call me Louis :) I have all of them tools :) I'm just looking for grease and lube and stuff ;)

Smickus
11-29-2004, 10:16 PM
good guide :)

danot2serious1
11-29-2004, 10:29 PM
Well, that was unnecessary.

Louis K
11-29-2004, 10:34 PM
Yeah thats why he needs to get banned.

Smickus
11-29-2004, 10:36 PM
:o blasphemy. i'll delete it now since lsteven14 has seen it

danot2serious1
11-29-2004, 10:44 PM
Let it go. :!:

Play nice.

reyesjr02
11-30-2004, 09:55 PM
can you list all the cables and everything that is needed?(with prices if possible)

danot2serious1
11-30-2004, 10:52 PM
Well if you already have the gyro one setup could be:

ody modulever- $19
ody london mod- $7
snafu astroglide lowers-$10

That's an awesome setup.

You could just buy sst oryg cables for 7 dollars. No need for a double barrel lever or london mod. Not bad breaking if you can tweak breaks well.

Street Cowboy
11-30-2004, 11:20 PM
Lsteven14 Smickus quit your bloody fighting.

great you dont like each other. wow i think everybody already knows this. seriously how old are two of you, 12?

smickus quit provoking him its childish and will lead the two of ou noware. more people read thease posts then acctualy post them selfs and its highly doubtfull they care about your melodrama

Lsteven14 quit leaving yourself open to ridicule. its not fair for you or the people that want to taunt you.
"Okay stef you can call me Louis I have all of them tools I'm just looking for grease and lube and stuff " out of context that is disturbing

im not saying this cuz im now a mod, but becouse i have to filter throught this bullcrap to get to the posts that acctualy have a point. im not the only person that sees this as pathetic

reyesjr02
12-01-2004, 01:33 AM
so i can just go to the shop with 30$ and just buy everything i need? i dont want anything too fancy, i just want it to work good enough

drk_fly
12-01-2004, 02:44 AM
ok so right now im running front and back brakes through the gyro. i wanna run a single rear cable. i know how to take all that gyro crap off (thanks to u) but i wanna know, what i will need to buy to run the single cable? if i take off the gyro, wont their be a gap in between the head tube or whatever thingy? will i need spacers for this?

thanks

danot2serious1
12-01-2004, 03:44 AM
They're might be a gap if your steerer tube is that long. If there is a gap, all you need to do is go to a hardware store and get a spacer (get a few, different widths) that fits sungly over the fork. So when you take the gyro off, before you put your stem on add spacers as nesscessary.

It depends on what your setup is now, what you need to buy and such. Most likely just a long single cable (ody slic $3) and eiter a cable straddle or a primo pervert. Altogether you should be able to set up a single cable system for about 10 dollars.

danot2serious1
12-01-2004, 03:49 AM
so i can just go to the shop with 30$ and just buy everything i need? i dont want anything too fancy, i just want it to work good enough

Not if you go to a local bike shop.
1. They may not have exactly what you need
2. It IS a bike shop. They put out alot of surcharges and overhead that us customers have to pay for. Expect to pay at least 10 dollars more for everything.

I like dual cable routing, the less cable the better, no spliters and crap to build up friction and hinder braking power. So you need dual uppers and lowers, london mod and some way to run a double barrel lever. It'll be as good as a single cable.

shOo
12-22-2004, 02:14 PM
greate article! thank's i've just put my gyro on. Yesterday i took it off, and i didn't know how to put everything back;] but you should write about those small rings, i don't know how are they called.

cav89
12-23-2004, 12:26 AM
ummm, there spacers dude, if your talking about the little metal rings abut 1/4" think(5 or 6mm) that sit between your headset and your stem......
:wink:

Denton
02-17-2005, 05:50 PM
If I just ran a single cable for my back brake would i be able to do barspins with no gyro.Because i've heard that if you have a longer enough cable you can still do barspins without having a gyro. And if i took of the gyro cables would i still be able to keep the gyro mechanism on or would save a lot of wheight if i took it off.

nutsgeezer
02-17-2005, 06:12 PM
yes, you can spin the bars 720 with a normal cable, or if your cable is really long maybe another half spin. If you run single cable there's no point in leaving your gyro on.

Denton
02-17-2005, 11:46 PM
Is the dia tech hombre fiesta a good brake caliper and would i save quite a bit of weight taking of my gyro and running a single cable or wouldn't it make much difference. :twisted: :evil:

emilydickinson
02-18-2005, 12:04 AM
Yes, the Hombre is a great brake, it's all you need. You will also save weight by running a straight cable, but if you spin the bars a lot it doesn't work quite as well as a gyro. It works pretty well, but I only get 1 spint out of mine.

Denton
02-18-2005, 01:46 PM
This may soumd like a stupid question but I was wondering,do the headset and the gyro both go in the same place.So if I took of my gyro I would have to put in a headset.And people that run a single cable have an headset instead of a gyro.Please help because I am confused because because I'm not exactly a bmx whizz kid.

Louis K
02-18-2005, 05:27 PM
The gyro goes over the headset :)

Denton
02-20-2005, 12:04 AM
When I pull my back brake only one of the arms on the brake calliper moves.Has this got anything to do with my gyro or is the brake calliper that has broke.Can I repair this or do you think i should just get rid of the gyro and run a single cable.PLEASE HELP!

Jezie R.
02-21-2005, 06:53 PM
When I pull my back brake only one of the arms on the brake calliper moves.Has this got anything to do with my gyro or is the brake calliper that has broke.Can I repair this or do you think i should just get rid of the gyro and run a single cable.PLEASE HELP!

I REALLY REALLY want to help you, but honestly I'm too busy. I guess you should just stick with the single Linear cable though cause it's simpler, because honestly, the Odyssey Gyro is just too complicated to some riders...

If one of the arms don't move PROBABLY it's one of these things:

1. You didn't tension the spring of that arm.

2. You overtweak the spring of that arm.

3. YOu didn't insert the ends of the spring properly in their respective holes.

4. You didn't pull the cable and fsten the cable to that arm.

Jezie R.
02-21-2005, 06:56 PM
By the way a good article...